What can I pull in a shot shell…?

[Certaindeaf]

I know I know!! a hambone draedel.

 

[fishfearme]

Dog poop in a wad for less lethal

 

[JTK1791]

Dog poop in a wad for less lethal

We need a vomit react emoji

 

[lucusloc]

We need a vomit react emoji

 

[JTK1791]

I meant for the like button

 

[lucusloc]

I meant for the like button

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a dislike button?

 

[NobullSKS]

I haven't found a single retail resource in the area to buy shotgun stuff from. Your best bet is to buy online through Ballistic Products Inc (BPI).


BPI has a good selection of shot shell reloading books, including specialty rounds like slugs and buckshot. I suggest you send for the books, study them, then you will have a better idea of what to buy.


Sharp metal objects will scratch a shotgun bore.


You might think about pre-made round lead balls, perhaps even products made for muzzle loaders. In a shot cup, patched, or pushed naked through the bore by a brush wad are all possibilities. You can look up decimal inch diameters of gauges and corresponding choke sizes. If the ball is going to be in a shot cup, just get a ball sized to the cup, choke diameter isn't an issue because to fit in the cup, the ball will be undersized to the choke. Usually, but be sure to check. A round lead ball can be a little bit oversized and still flow through a choked bore without issues because the bearing surface is so limited. You can look up forum threads on Google that address these possibilities.

If you're gonna do slugs, the BPI slug book might be a starting point. The easiest way to load slugs is to buy the ones that have an integral plastic nitro wad attached. Slug molds aren't cheap. The most widely used is the 12 ga. Lee slug mold.

You can also roll your own sabot slug shot shells, BPI sells those too and they are addressed in their slug load book. I've used sabots in my 28 ga. that were designed for black powder arms.

I've made a number of posts online here at NWFA about specialty shot shell loads. Which in turn have elicited reply posts. I don't have time to go back, look them up, and post links. But they are under the reloading and shotgun forums.

I like being able to make specialty loads for my shotguns, because it turns them into more versatile firearms.

Thank you thank you….
My search powers here fail all the time. I'm not taking all responsibility though….. the thread search "keywords" feature is a joke. At least in my experience. But I'll find what you're posting. Don't worry about pasties….

BPI … thx

 

[NobullSKS]

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Cha-Ching

Was hoping to save some money on this cartridge. So far that was one of the goals initially when starting to reload ammo….. now it's for accuracy and joy… maybe some Canadian money…

 

[MTpockets]

 

[NobullSKS]

Play with the simple, get the balls!

Great Balls of 12 Gauge

Never got into reloading shotshells. Always wanted to, especially slugs and buckshot. That is, until recently. Got a 12 gauge Lee Loader here in the classifieds and then ordered a 1 1/8 oz .690 Lee round ball mold from Titan Reloading for $20.35 ($10 shipping) very recently and was ready to go...

www.northwestfirearms.com

That's really cool…. Just reworked target shells?

I've seen YouTube videos using ball molds and loads.

Noticed in the thread that high brass is gimmicky… sweet. Got a lot out of that thread before it turned into an SnL South Park skit. Guess every thread ends up of the rails.

I love it here

 

[NobullSKS]

Less lethal… gimmicks
Well I popped a couple of these kinetic rnds in my yard and a solid piece of plywood…. Small dent 40ft away pretty straight.

Except I was under the impression that these were pepper balls… I could have gotten robbed or they failed to bust. I really wanted to get a sense of how spicy these were… disappointing. Guess I'll have to drill into it to see. And smell….

Anyway they look primer fired?? Spec says 400-600 fps I think. I guess a little powder would fit in the wad.

Re-primed one… and found all components:
Shell, wad, sabot and TORPEDO BOMBSHELL.

I guess I'll open up a live one to check for powder.

Whatchall think?

Edit…. Nope..solid plastic

 

[JTK1791]

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Halloween next year is going to be interesting

 

[72scoutman]

I'm absolutely unhelpful for all of those questions, but as a suggestion.... load a few with rock-salt for less lethal defensive rounds...

Just dont leave them in the window sill, great granddad killed the neighbors bull eating his garden. The rock salt had solidified into a slug from the moisture in the window while the shells sat waiting for the bull to come back.

 

[JTK1791]

I'm absolutely unhelpful for all of those questions, but as a suggestion.... load a few with rock-salt for less lethal defensive rounds...

As effective as it might be it might not be the best idea to do this. If you have to use a firearm in self defense you will most likely end up in court, have fun explaining why you felt the need to use a gun but loaded it with a gnarly homemade "less lethal" round and god forbid you accidently kill the person with your "less lethal" rounds. Especially in the liberal PNW if you want less lethal get something purpose built for it and if you have to go lethal lets hope you have a good case to show you had 0 options but to use a firearm. Or if you dont want to/cant buy a purpose built less lethal weapon buy less lethal rounds from a reputable company so that if bubblegum goes sideways you can point at the company that made/marketed the round vs your box of salt in the cabinet.

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Byrna Less-Lethal Rifles

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[Richo877]

have fun explaining

"Your honor, I loaded it with salt. I didn't want to kill em, I wanted ţo hurt em real real bad. Bet he ain't ever coming back."

 

[JTK1791]

"Your honor, I loaded it with salt. I didn't want to kill em, I wanted ţo hurt em real real bad. Bet he ain't ever coming back."

Civil court is a thing and its not unheard of for burglars to sue the owner after getting hurt due to the home owners actions that hurt them. Always better when the judge only gets to hear your side of it.

"your honor I know I broke into his house but he shot me with some homemade rounds that really bubblegumed me up" doesn't sound good.

Also take into account how the courts here have been treating criminals, better that the criminal never ends up in court if you catch my drift

 

[NobullSKS]

Deconstructed a couple target loads and practicing on range pickup.

Little length cutting template out of pipe.

Working my math out for 2" shells. Melted some lead today and waiting on Lee slug mold.

 

[Juniper9mm]

The wife and I tried filling shells with trail mix to feed the birds, but even a raisin travelling at 1200 FPS can make this a last supper.

 

[lucusloc]

The wife and I tried filling shells with trail mix to feed the birds, but even a raisin travelling at 1200 FPS can make this a last supper.

The truest definition of "force feeding" if I ever saw one.

"Get inside my belly...and all my other vital organs too."

 

[ditchtiger]

I stuffed a nylon stocking in a 12 gauge shell and enough shot so it felt normal. Dropped it in my uncle's ammo at the trap range. Them all I had to do was wait.
Went about 15 feet and drifted to the ground.