Feds to move Griz to N Cascades

[RVTECH]

If brown bears migrate to the north cascades naturally, on their own, then that is all well and good. Don't transplant something. ]

I agree -

Bringing them back is a good first step, but managing them is also important!

I disagree

If an animal has to be 'artificially' brought back and then artificially 'managed' then there is essentially no reason or rational for it to be brought back.

All Animals have had their chance 'environmentally' and if they cannot survive then so be it regardless of the reason - be it human caused or otherwise.

Ever notice how many coyotes we have, or cougars? They do not seem to be suffering the effects of humans, or environmental causes and are doing quite well.

Bringing back an animal and managing its survival is an incredible waste of money and resources and will have NO positive effect - especially if it has to be 'managed'.

 

[Oregonhunter5]

Attacks in parks - especially Yellowstone - are often due to humans wanting to pet a Teddy bear.

You really can't blame the bears for human misbehavior.

I might of misguided you in on the attacks. There's usually no attacks in those parks. The attacks are on hunters.
Sometimes glacier over the years.
Read "Mark of the Grizzly."

 

[The Heretic]

I might of misguided you in on the attacks. There's usually no attacks in those parks. The attacks are on hunters.
Sometimes glacier over the years.
Read "Mark of the Grizzly."

Yeah - GNP attacks are usually not tourists - it is not like Yellowstone. Been to both. Went to GNP on a dual sport motorcycle from Seattle along the northern border of WA, then ID then MT. Camped outside going there (Polebridge) and back. This was after brown bears had been seen in Baker/etc. Carried my DW .44 mag just like I did in Alaska.

When I went to Yellowstone I was working in Bozeman. Didn't carry because at that time it was prohibited and it was just a day trip on my day off. No hunters in Yellowstone.

 

[tinkerbill]

i'll pay the 10k fine for shooting bigfoot

Specially if he's breathing down yer neck!

 

[Geardo]

Glad I already bought a 10mm. Usually carry a 300 blk innawoods too. Maybe should switch that up to a 12 gauge w8th brenneke hard cast.

 

[Geardo]

A little more insanity.

Grizzly Proposal Brings Out Hundreds Opposed (And Some In Favor) In North-Central Washington

It’s been four years since the federal government initially started asking Washington residents whether they’d like to see more grizzly bears brought into…

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Lets see, my thoughts are:

A) I don't need more competition hunting

B) at least its up north and not down here

C) maybe a few maulings will scare some hippy soy latte drinking faux conservationsist tree hugger hippies up in seattle into buying a gun? Or at least elimiate them from the gene pool!

D) I have mixed feelings about the ideas of predators restoring balance. Are people not aoex predators? Lots of people want to hunt. Maybe you met more black powder and archery hunters hunt all year. Different people at different times, to keep the pressure up just like natural predators do, and you wouldn't have 10,000 people all hunting the same weekend. That ain't natural!

 

[SUPER X]

Less rights of defence and more protected preditors . Great Idea

 

[HB of CJ]

Might require fresh education of the wilds regarding Tree Huggers, Fish Kissers and MILLENNIALS. They will probably assume, (dangerous word) that louder bells and more calming thoughts will work.

 

[tinkerbill]

Less rights of defence and more protected preditors . Great Idea

Seems to be the trend with all things anti-gun! Even when it comes to the criminals/predators in our own species! They need extra protection

 

[Oregonhunter5]

You go into bear country, your stupid to think gun for protection.
Bear spray all day long....

 

[Flymph]

It seems some individuals take too literally yet still out of context the phrase "right to bear arms"...

Hopefully nobody has made that joke. I can't say whether bears are a good thing or not. I can see issue with the habitat sustaining the population, as there aren't strong enough salmon runs. Not just the salmon, but the dispersion of flora and fauna these bears would require is essentially decimated. The ecosystem as a whole has changed so dramatically from 150 years ago, it wouldn't be recognizable except for the mountains.
I'd feel better about the idea if I didn't have to send a few letters every month to sustain firearms rights for all honest citizens.

Edit: Another dodge by forestry and environmental agencies.

 

[Flymph]

You go into bear country, your stupid to think gun for protection.
Bear spray all day long....

I'm the kind of jerk that shoots an attacking animal after it's been sprayed...

 

[CRBMoA]

You go into bear country, your stupid to think gun for protection.
Bear spray all day long....

 

[clearconscience]

It makes the environmentalists who live in cities feel good about "bears in the wild"

Then they should watch the youtube videos of bears eating animals alive while they scream.

Personally I'm for it if managed right, but they don't manage anything right so why add something else