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So does Norma, weatherby, federal, Lapua,Budweiser and Chevrolet depending on what "Nosler employees" have contributed to the Internet.The Nosler Brass is made by Winchester.... Sorry to burst your bubble...
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So does Norma, weatherby, federal, Lapua,Budweiser and Chevrolet depending on what "Nosler employees" have contributed to the Internet.The Nosler Brass is made by Winchester.... Sorry to burst your bubble...
95 grains! Talk about your shoulder getting hammered!
Greenbug, Can you cite your source of this info? From what I found poking around is that Norma is commonly considered the manufacturer, with Federal and possibly Remington making it.The Nosler Brass is made by Winchester.... Sorry to burst your bubble...
I was just out in the garage putting together some loads for testing.
Like usual, using Remington brass for the finished rounds. I was using a "dummy" case, which was a Federal, for working the powder measure and noticed that the powder level was up in the neck compared to when it was poured into the Remington case where it was only up to the shoulder. (I was weighing every charge on the scale before putting it in the case to be loaded)
Later I put the Federal case on the scale, followed by Remington then Winchester. The Federal case was almost 10 grains heavier than the Remington, with the Winchester being lighter yet.
I'm thinking that many like Federal cases because the believe they are stronger in the web and case head as shown by the weight difference.
Not at all going to change my preference, but an observation relating to the OP.
I believe it can. For years I've loaded 41 Mag handgun. Never had an issue until I bought a batch of Starline cases. The velocity recorded by the chrono was a bunch higher than with the Remington cases I'd been using and the load was near max. Went back, weighed the Starline cases, and found they were quite a bit heavier than the Remington. Backed off a grain and all was well.This could also contribute to people loading all makes of brass with the same charge and ending up with higher pressures in the smaller capacity Federal cases causing more stress on the brass alas making more failures...
Greenbug, Can you cite your source of this info? From what I found poking around is that Norma is commonly considered the manufacturer, with Federal and possibly Remington making it.
You know how it is, so many "theories".
I live about a mile away from Nosler. I have several friends that have worked there and some that still work there...
The Nosler Brass is made by Winchester.... Sorry to burst your bubble...
Nosler has long been teamed up with Olin/Winchester, Example: Combined Technology bullets. It really does not make sense for any other company to be making brass for Nosler than Winchester.
Nosler gets the brass raw then sizes, trims, de-burrs, weight sorts and packages the brass. That is why it costs so dang much as compared to other brass. Norma brass costs so much due to the import taxes etc...
FWIW
Even if Winchester makes brass for Nosler, It does not mean it is the same exact brass as Winchesters house brass. It is as simple as a slightly different base material, formula,specs,extra steps, higher QC or different production process to Noslers Specifications. The whole "insider info" (from a common laborer means bubblegum).
I'm not implying I'm right but I can assume with the rest...
I was "speaking" generally not personally. I done did komprehended and understoodeeded just fine.Notice I didn't say that Nosler brass is the same as Winchester brass, only that Winchester made the Nosler brass.....
It is unfortunate when people misunderstand what they have read.
There are extra steps which I outlined in post #31. The metallurgy could be different you are right about that, however, I am certain of my "insider info" as you describe it.
The Nosler Brass is made by Winchester.... Sorry to burst your bubble...
Notice I didn't say that Nosler brass is the same as Winchester brass, only that Winchester made the Nosler brass.....
It is unfortunate when people misunderstand what they have read.
There are extra steps which I outlined in post #31. The metallurgy could be different you are right about that, however, I am certain of my "insider info" as you describe it.
Fun Reading. I'm not there yet, but have done lots of reading. Chevalier's 8th edition, twice, plus lots of forum lurking.
Question- the neck split, is this due to thinning of material after it stretches and gets trimmed? Sorry, admitted noob here.
I can be very patient/anal about things, reloading looks like the perfect retirement activity for me, but that's about a decade from now. Assuming it isn't outlawed by then.
The Nosler Brass is made by Winchester.... Sorry to burst your bubble...
Thank You! I used to get 3-4 loads out of Winchester before it cracks. Nosler is a completely different story! I'm on my 14th reload with one of my batches of Nosler - I annealed at 7.Well I can tell you it isn't made LIKE Winchester brass. All the Nosler brass I get is within a couple tenths of a grain of each other and exactly the same length. I would guess that Nosler contracts with Winchester to use a different alloy and to sort them better than they do for their own brass. Lots of companies do this, don't have the machinery and so contract with another to do the work with different specs or processes.
The brass is CERTAINLY different than Winchester.