Example of consequences of carrying in a non-permissive environment

[GripItAndRipIt]

You had a point?
Was it on the top of your head like Oblio's?

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LOL. I didn't actually expect you to defend your facile position.

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

I didn't hear that part in his very long story, did you listen to it?

Probably a good idea to have all the facts before, yunno, not having all the facts.

 

[SrMachoSolo]

Interesting responses.

Question for you guys, why does corporate/company policy take priority over your rights?

-Robert

 

[billdeserthills]

Probably a good idea to have all the facts before, yunno, not having all the facts.

Does that mean you heard that part in the story?

Story I listened to indicated that all his buds at work knew about his hidden gun & their talking about it got him caught-- If ya actually know something, then spill it

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Does that mean you heard that part in the story?

Story I listened to indicated that all his buds at work knew about his hidden gun & their talking about it got him caught-- If ya actually know something, then spill it

I'm not doing your homework for you. Watch the video for proof of the other poster's correct assertion.

 

[billdeserthills]

LOL. I didn't actually expect you to defend your facile position.

Surprise

You seem a bit critical for someone who didn't bother listening to the 20 minute vid

 

[billdeserthills]

I'm not doing your homework for you. Watch the video for proof of the other poster's correct assertion.

I already watched it, blowhard-- now it's your turn

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Interesting responses.

Question for you guys, why does corporate/company policy take priority over your rights?

-Robert

This is a fair question. In my view it is property rights (in this case your employer's property) vs. your 2A rights which shall not be infringed. I believe someone else's property rights trump your constitutional rights when you voluntarily enter their property -- whether a commercial space like a shopping mall or a professional office building, a restaurant, a place of worship, or a private home. The context of the property is irrelevant. Remember, the Constitution restrains only the state, not the citizen. And this is the very mechanism that protects the property owner's (or lessee) right to determine what occurs on their property. This applies to all your constitutional rights, not just 2A.

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Does that mean you heard that part in the story?

Story I listened to indicated that all his buds at work knew about his hidden gun & their talking about it got him caught-- If ya actually know something, then spill it

You didn't listen very carefully if you dispute the fact that he had an unsecured firearm in his workspace. Which you did. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

I already watched it, blowhard-- now it's your turn

Your playground taunts are more evidence that you are proffering a fallacy in the absence of all the facts. Please review the forum rules, specifically the section that says "be excellent to each other." We can disagree without being disagreeable.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Interesting responses.

Question for you guys, why does corporate/company policy take priority over your rights?

-Robert

My castle, my potato!

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Surprise

You seem a bit critical for someone who didn't bother listening to the 20 minute vid

Now you're not even addressing your own point.

This is the position you failed to defend:



Would love to hear your rational defense to my rebuttal. Thank you.

 

[SrMachoSolo]

This is a fair question. In my view it is property rights (in this case your employer's property) vs. your 2A rights which shall not be infringed. I believe someone else's property rights trump your constitutional rights when you voluntarily enter their property -- whether a commercial space like a shopping mall or a professional office building, a restaurant, a place of worship, or a private home. The context of the property is irrelevant. Remember, the Constitution restrains only the state, not the citizen. And this is the very mechanism that protects the property owner's (or lessee) right to determine what occurs on their property. This applies to all your constitutional rights, not just 2A.

Hmm... I see your point of view. Respecting other's rules in their "home".

My follow up question to this is, what do you think of "gun free zones"? Useful, necessary, otherwise?

My castle, my potato!

I have a potato gun... is that allowed?

-Robert

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Hmm... I see your point of view. Respecting other's rules in their "home".

I don't see any rational alternative. Home or other property -- I pay the bills, it's mine, I make the rules. Private property is a fundamental concept of Western culture.

My follow up question to this is, what do you think of "gun free zones"? Useful, necessary, otherwise?

Not sure I see the relevance to my position, but you'll have to clarify: Are we talking GFZ on public or private property? A school? A courthouse? A movie theater? A commercial aircraft? Happy to proffer my opinion, but let's agree on some definitions first. Thank you.

 

[Frank RW]

I don't see any rational alternative. Home or other property -- I pay the bills, it's mine, I make the rules. Private property is a fundamental concept of Western culture.

Now if some folks only realized that applies to Facebook, etc. Instead of calling it censorship, call it custom filtering.

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Now if some folks only realized that applies to Facebook, etc. Instead of calling it censorship, call it custom filtering.

Of course. Facebook's house, Facebook's rules. Voluntary participation constitutes agreement w TOS.

 

[Member 53328]

Welcome to living in a FREE country. You're not in contract to work for someone who doesn't endorse your ideals or morals. Don't like the company policy than quit and find another job. Or obey the policy. Or disobey the policy and run the chance of getting caught and eventually terminated. It's really that simple. I have the right to free speech just as much as I have the right to carry a firearm. But if I tell my boss to eat a d!ck I'll probably loose my job just as fast in not faster than I will carrying a gun. Lucky for me my boss is all about the right to carry and actively supports me doing such. It's called personal responsibility and ownership of your actions. Something this country is quickly loosing sight of.

 

[billdeserthills]

Your playground taunts are more evidence that you are proffering a fallacy in the absence of all the facts. Please review the forum rules, specifically the section that says "be excellent to each other." We can disagree without being disagreeable.

Really, do you always quote folks in here 4 times in 12 minutes?

Seems like ya got a burr in your bonnet

Guess what happens to sheep dogs that kill the sheep in real life

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[billdeserthills]

Now you're not even addressing your own point.

This is the position you failed to defend:

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Would love to hear your rational defense to my rebuttal. Thank you.

I bring my weapon with me wherever I go, except the very seldom times I'm working in a school. The Second Amendment grants that right & if you don't like it maybe a 'no guns' sign outside your residence/biz could help

 

[GripItAndRipIt]

Really, do you always quote folks in here 4 times in 12 minutes?

Seems like ya got a burr in your bonnet

Guess what happens to sheep dogs that kill the sheep in real life

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Fallacy. Argumentum ad hominem. I am not the topic here. Noted you failed to defend your facile position. All the deflection in the world will not change that fact.