Electricity Shortage Warnings Grow Across U.S.

[Stomper]

I think the idea to limit light pollution is the driving idea for all this expansion of EV and increase high density living.

Look at how little light pollution North Korea makes! Just imagine how beautiful the night sky is there...


</Sarcasm>

Not to mention obesity isn't a thing in North Korea. There's literally only ONE fat guy in the entire country…..

 

[Mikej]

Forget about damming rivers for water storage and electricity. Or turning turbines by tide flowing in and out of bays. There's fish and frogs and such that would be affected.
Raises for public servants is the answer.

 

[kmk1012]

Detroit looked to be at or near capacity when I drove thru on Wednesday.

-E-

Very nice! We had the boat out on Green Peter last weekend and it was still low, driving past Foster and it was lower than I've ever seen it.

 

[kmk1012]

Forget about damming rivers for water storage and electricity. Or turning turbines by tide flowing in and out of bays. There's fish and frogs and such that would be affected.
Raises for public servants is the answer.

Pretty much how I see things operate here in OR

 

[DirectDrive]

My new rig...

 

[EHJ]

We haven't seen anything yet.
Cali is toast this year.

Lake Mead level continues to drop, affecting power production

Hoover Dam is home to one of the largest hydropower plants in the United States. And more than half the electricity it produces is sent to California.

www.8newsnow.com

Lower water levels at Lake Mead mean less electricity from Hoover Dam

The Hoover Dam is generating about 25% less hydropower due to record-low water levels at Lake Mead.

www.ktnv.com

 

[parallax]

I was reading up about Bonneville dam and the way it's utilized and it's history. It's a non profit entity, yet sells its power to utility companies who get to charge what they want and are FOR profit companies there on lies the problem when they sell it back to the public

 

[solv3nt]

I was reading up about Bonneville dam and the way it's utilized and it's history. It's a non profit entity, yet sells its power to utility companies who get to charge what they want and are FOR profit companies there on lies the problem when they sell it back to the public

Just out of curiosity, is PacifiCorp, PGE, etc selling it too high when we have one of the lowest rates in the nation?

 

[jayR]

Socialize costs. Privatize profits.
New data centers

 

[solv3nt]

Socialize costs. Privatize profits.
New data centers

That's business as usual. How do you attract a company to build in your state vs others? The answer is tax breaks from the state. How would you propose getting a company to build here instead of another location?

 

[308]

Just wait for the multi-national forces that will be deployed here to 'keep the peace'.

Sometimes a plan takes longer to be implemented; for example:

Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by their world government."

– Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. (in an address to the Bilderberger organization meeting at Evian, France, on May 21, 1991. As transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates. )" — Henry Kissinger

Ref:

40 Most Unforgettable Henry Kissinger Quotes

In 1923, Heinz Alfred Kissinger, aka Henry, made his grand entrance in Bavaria, Germany to loving parents, Louis, and Paula Kissinger. While growing up, Henry and his pals received constant harassment from local youth connected

www.anquotes.com

 

[308]

We haven't seen anything yet.
Cali is toast this year.

Lake Mead level continues to drop, affecting power production

Hoover Dam is home to one of the largest hydropower plants in the United States. And more than half the electricity it produces is sent to California.

www.8newsnow.com

Lower water levels at Lake Mead mean less electricity from Hoover Dam

The Hoover Dam is generating about 25% less hydropower due to record-low water levels at Lake Mead.

www.ktnv.com

That "We" may include PNW folks as well.

A significant amount of hydroelectric power generated in the Northwest is consumed by California customers. In the late 1960s, BPA constructed two 500-kilovolt transmission lines capable of carrying power from the Pacific Northwest to the Los Angeles area. The Pacific Northwest-Southwest intertie was completed in 1971, giving Los Angeles consumers access to hydroelectric power originating from the Pacific Northwest.

Ref:

The Columbia River Basin provides more than 40% of total U.S. hydroelectric generation - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

 

[arakboss]

That "We" may include PNW folks as well.

A significant amount of hydroelectric power generated in the Northwest is consumed by California customers. In the late 1960s, BPA constructed two 500-kilovolt transmission lines capable of carrying power from the Pacific Northwest to the Los Angeles area. The Pacific Northwest-Southwest intertie was completed in 1971, giving Los Angeles consumers access to hydroelectric power originating from the Pacific Northwest.

Ref:

The Columbia River Basin provides more than 40% of total U.S. hydroelectric generation - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

I would support an enviro-nuts lawsuit to terminate those lines at the border.

 

[arakboss]

Not to mention obesity isn't a thing in North Korea. There's literally only ONE fat guy in the entire country…..

That's because they get all their food from nutrisystem.

 

[The Heretic]

Better be a positive update the way they are releasing water out of them. The Santiam looks like it's at flood stage the last couple days.

We had some gully washers lately. When I came home from Tigard Friday a lot of the roads on the mountain had debris strewn across them from the ditches and driveways being washed out.

Bear in mind that mountains get twice as much precip as the valleys, and most of that washes downhill into the valleys.

The dams are probably releasing water because they are at capacity. This is a good thing - mostly - compared to not having enough water going into the summer. Also, they have to make room for snow melt.

 

[ATCclears]

Q: If California wanted more electricity to close their gaps, is there anything in the contract with some Northwest electrical-generation facilities that might prioritize shipping California the electricity and causing rolling blackouts in the Northwest?

 

[solv3nt]

Q: If California wanted more electricity to close their gaps, is there anything in the contract with some Northwest electrical-generation facilities that might prioritize shipping California the electricity and causing rolling blackouts in the Northwest?

The ultra high voltage lines can only transmit so much power down to California. They are capped by the wire size. Also, in the summertime, they are further limited by ambient air temperature for conductor heating (power transmission), conductor sag, and the air dryness. Dryer air will cause the corona effect to increase. Corona is not only a beer, but also when electricity transmits via the outer skin of the conducted rather than inside is the conductor. Higher corona can cause arcing. PacifiCorp is in the process of wildfire mitigation on their lines.

 

[shoengine]

Karma, Reality: we are going to see lots of it.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Ura-Ki]

Welp, with how the Wet Coast manages it's forests, it's power infrastructure, and everything else, were all phucked! This years Fire Season looks to be another really bad one, not enough snow pack, not enough rain's in the mountains, and of course, Gov'ness Brownstain hasn't lifted a pinky finger to direct the forestry dept. to get off their azzes and go clear the brush and power lines, so were sure to get another really good conflagration! Both OryGun and Cali came close to setting the all time records of largest Fires in Human history ( For each State) I think Cali might have actually broken their record, while Orygun was super close, NOT something to be proud of! Take a drive down I-5 and see all the burn scars, from Grants Pass all the way to Shasta/Trinity! Same with Highway 20/22 and Highway 43 and 58 around Lakeview!

For you Warbubblegumogians, Did the BPA ever get permission to run new power lines around Lake Merwin, Yale, Swift? I know there was a big fight raging about all that, and BPA was trying to force right of way/imminent domain in areas they didn't need to run lines, but wanted to save a few bucks! I didn't think Merwin, Yale, Swift, generated enough power to matter, I think Swift only has two turbines, and it's by far the largest of the three!

 

[GWS]

Warbubblegumogians

I gotta ask
WTH is a Warbubblegumogian?