Oregon As expected, SOS says walkout Rs cannot run again for office, per Measure 113

[Camelfilter]

Finally someone brings a valid firearms related comment. Still doesn't change the fact that this thread is political and not firearms related.

As pointed out, this thread has everything to do with firearms.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.

I can however, invite you politely to leave the thread.

 

[ColeInOregon]

Actually, the current law in place (113) does prevent them from seeking re-election. They are currently disqualified for another term of office. The law must be successfully challenged and requires a court to decide to throw out that law if they wish to run again for office.

Not the other way around....

So,are they not challenging it? Last I read they were.

Ah bubblegum, you baited me in, so explain to me like I am 5 what this thread has to with firearms?

 

[ColeInOregon]

As pointed out, this thread has everything to do with firearms.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.

I can however, invite you politely to leave the thread.

No thanks, I am here to stay.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Ah bubblegum, you baited me in, so explain to me like I am 5 what this thread has to with firearms?

Much like explaining facts they do not like to a 5 year old, one cannot explain things to those who choose willful ignorance and pretend lack of comprehension. If you do not see how this is 100% relevant to the walkout over gun bills, then this is no more than putting your fingers in your ears and yelling I can't hear you.

 

[Yarome]

So,are they not challenging it? Last I read they were.

That's the word on the street.... but I haven't noticed any filings yet. There very well may be.

In a bent blue state it's hardly a foregone conclusion it will be successfully overturned, though. There also remains the question of appeals and how long it might take to have it overturned. It won't do much good for those coming up for re-election in 2024 if 113 isn't overturned in time.

As far as how it directly pertains to firearm discussions.... others have already pointed out the obvious so I don't feel the need to keep beating a dead horse.

 

[Mono1]

No thanks, I am here to stay.

Admire your Fortitude, Bro. BUT..






FAT Lady has SUNG.

 

[Camelfilter]

Admire your Fortitude, Bro. BUT..






FAT Lady has SUNG.

Oh. OK then.

 

[Kid@Heart]

All things being equal - I have a problem with 'walkouts' - repub or dem.

They were elected for an effing job to do so DO IT - don't walk out as that is a sign of weakness.

How many of us can just 'walk off' our jobs if we don't like/agree with something ?

Ever been in a union?

 

[Mono1]

 

[Alexx1401]

So to be clear I do agree with the walkout and fully understand it, however, what does this thread have to do with guns? This not a forum where we debate politics, this is a forum where we discuss firearms.

To be clear gun owners who ask this question are the reason we are losing.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Legitimately curious..

What, if any.. is the point of electing a minority Party, if the majority Party is going to disregard the minority Party no matter what, and pass laws with or without the input of the minority Party?

Why would anyone seriously want to run as a minority Party in Oregon; if they're going to be unable to stop the majority Party from passing whatever they want, and be notionally disqualified from reelection if they walk out in protest?
As it stands, the majority Party is treating the minority Party as "warm bodies to keep the benches warm" in order to get quorum so they can pass everything they want.

Right now, it is the majority Party that have these anti-gun bills and passing them, as well as treating gun owners as future criminals if not already criminals; the minority Party had a chance to prevent these bills from ever passing... simply by staying the course and staying out of Oregon, disregarding SOS. They had nothing to lose anyways by staying out. They had everything to lose by coming back to provide quorum for the majority Party to pass everything they want.

It has been made abundantly clear that the majority Party controls these boxes in Oregon..

Soap Box, media owned by the majority Party

Ballot Box, mail in and owned , counted by the same Party that seeks to criminalize opposition to their platform.

Jury Box, every one of the Oregon Supremes were appointed by the majority Party governors.

Cartridge Box, in the process of being abolished and outlawed and criminalized (see ghost gun bill, "paramilitary" bill, mag ban Bill, stated desire to ban AWs and other things) by the majority Party

 

[PiratePast40]

Anyone else notice that rotary engines seem to have a distinct sound?

 

[Diamondback]

One party explicitly has Disarm the Serfs s a plank in its party platform, the other does not. If that doesn't MAKE Scorched Earth-ing that party a firearms issue I don't know what does...

 

[Stomper]

Anyone else notice that rotary engines seem to have a distinct sound?

Yes…. it's the sound of "failure" and "suck".

 

[Diamondback]

Yes…. it's the sound of "failure" and "suck".

Sorta like the sound of putting a turbocharged engine in a van?

 

[jackrv]

I don't think democrats would've passed this walk out restriction without knowing they'll be in power for the foreseeable future.

If oregon was a state that flipped flopped red then blue or vice-versa dems would be just fine with walking out. But since they know they'll be the majority party able to pass bills with a super majority they know the walkout restriction gives them even more power.

It was on the ballot and passed by the voters in Portland, Eugene etc.

 

[jackrv]

Let's see. The Oregon Legislature tried to pass a law that strips parental rights when it comes to gender identity care, which includes castration, top surgery, hormonal treatment, or other genital mutilation. I don't know if it passed or not.

It did when the Republicans came back.

 

[jackrv]

So, just a question, but what does this thread have to do with firearms?

One of the bills that was passed and signed was firearm related, as in restrictions.

 

[jackrv]

Ever been in a union?

I worked for UP railroad and up until just before I retired, we could not strike. The courts then ruled that railroad unions could strike selected roads and bargain nation wide.
I worked there for 30+ yrs.

 

[Diamondback]

One of the bills that was passed and signed was firearm related, as in restrictions.

Jack, remember "there is none so blind as him who WILL not see."