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Woman killed at party after off-duty Detroit police officer's gun discharges

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Vantage, Jul 8, 2012.

  1. Vantage

    Vantage Pacific Standard Time Active Member

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    Hope this hasn't already been posted..

    Three articles of the same story about an off duty police officer that was hugged from behind by a woman he didn't know. The article states that he was carrying a department issued .40 Smith and Wesson semi automatic (I assume an M&P, but that's just my assumption) in an IWB holster. The articles state that the hug caused the gun to discharge hitting her in the lung and the heart and she died later at the hospital.

    Woman killed at party after off-duty Detroit police officer's gun discharges | City of Detroit | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    Police: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman - ABC News

    http://www.freep.com/article/201207...-duty-Detroit-police-officer-s-gun-discharges

    My question is... how does a gun at waist level shoot someone in the lung and heart?
     
  2. Rascals

    Rascals Portland Or Active Member

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    You dont know what level she was hugging him at.
     
  3. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "Freak-accidents" do happen, when there's 7,000,000,000 people on a planet and 300,000,000 in your country alone. Sometimes weird bubblegum will happen.

    If it was truly just a freak-accident, I hope the officer suffers no penalty.
     
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  4. PuddleMonkey

    PuddleMonkey Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    People still live in Detroit? 20tkoi1.jpg
     
  5. techieguy

    techieguy Well-Known Member

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    Makes wonder what type of holster this guy had...All my IWB holster have always covered the trigger. Something seems just a bit off (facts not given in the story or the fact were not given to the reporter). With a decent holster I can't see how this could happen (a hug given from behind, and the 'hugger' shot in the chest with a holster pistol in the waist that should be pointing down). Hopefully more facts will be forthcoming.
     
  6. soberups

    soberups Newberg Well-Known Member

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    There is a picture in my mind of how she could have been shot in the chest by a gun in an IWB...but my post will probably get deleted if I describe that picture in any detail. Use your imagination and it becomes pretty obvious. It happened at a "party"....the victim was a female....you can fill in the blanks from there......
     
  7. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    officer was dancing with his wife when the victim hugged him from behind, no wait, from in front, no it was behind... something isn't right with this report - could be the reporter didn't get all the facts or maybe the wife didn't approve of her rubbin up on her husband...
     
  8. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    That was no accident.
     
  9. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    This
     
  10. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Herself wanted to know if the deceased was a midget, maybe?

    You know, strange stuff happens sometimes. I assisted an autopsy once, where the driver was making a left hand turn, and fell out of the jeep (M151A2). The jeep made a complete circle before the other three guys in the jeep could stop it, and it ran over the driver. [That was their story, and they stuck to it...until the autopsy evidence didn't agree with their fable.]

    Makes you wonder if there was any gun shot residue on anyone's hands...
     
  11. mudflatmike

    mudflatmike Lake Stevens, Wa. Active Member

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    I've said this a zillion times:
    Don't believe ANYTHING you read in the papers, the reporters are not capable of telling the truth.
     
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  12. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    How about a shoulder holster.
    Place the victim behind the man, reach around man and as she gives a hug, accidentally fingers the trigger.
    Bullet is fired in a down and back trajectory, entering her lung and lodging in the heart.
     
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  13. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    that's a possible solution...but really, it takes how many pounds of pressure to pull a trigger? Surely someone would have noticed something....
     
  14. Brown

    Brown Saint Helens Member

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    I agree, either this was not an accident or there is more to the story.
     
  15. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    "Woman killed at party after off-duty Detroit police officer's gun discharges"

    OK, so what killed her? She was killed after the gun went off. Sorry, this is one of my pet peeves with local news stations. They've picked up this annoying habit (among others) of misusing prepositions. "A man was killed after falling from a 10 story building"...so again, what killed him? Surely not the fall. If so it would read "A man was killed when he fell from a 10 story building." It's like fingernails on a chalkboard with me.

    Other annoying usages include...

    "...take a new tact..." It's "TACK" like in sailing!

    or the ever stylish "...hone in on [something]." It's "HOME"! You "HONE" a razor, or you "HOME" in.

    Sheeeesh!!!!
     
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  16. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Junction City Active Member

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    Ricochet perhaps?
     
  17. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Lets see, Off Duty Police Officer + Detroit + party + woman = any questions here?
     
  18. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    OK I got this figured out after thinking about it today.

    The cop and the woman were Jive dancing and when she passed through his legs or was wrapped around his *** in a move the pistol discharged and hit her in the chest.
     
  19. FullCaliberII

    FullCaliberII Pierce County, WA Active Member

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    Not proud of this, but I dropped my loaded Glock 27 down my interior carpeted stairs last month. It was in a Don Hume IWB holster with retention strap. It bounced down 15 +/- stairs and slammed into the wall. Know what happened? Nothing.
    These guns don't go BANG unless you pull the trigger. I bet they can't recreate this one.
     
  20. OFADAN

    OFADAN Brownsville, OR Well-Known Member

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    Curious how did the holster came off your belt? Not a critizism just trying to figure this out.