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You sir are correct. But like fly fishing a catch and release location. Arguing can be fun in it own right.
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This is less a diatribe against all hunters but those that do so for fun, for entertainment.
Not that I am a vegan or some hippy, I just don't get shooting animals and watching them die.
Personally I think most of your sport hunters are really, in the end, insecure, as that is all the power they can get in their lives.
If you want to man up, put on some gloves and do some MMA.
This is less a diatribe against all hunters but those that do so for fun, for entertainment.
Not that I am a vegan or some hippy, I just don't get shooting animals and watching them die.
Personally I think most of your sport hunters are really, in the end, insecure, as that is all the power they can get in their lives.
If you want to man up, put on some gloves and do some MMA.
I'd probably be more into hunting if my dad didn't shove me inside an bloody elk carcass when I was little. He followed that up by leaving me snipe hunting for hours in a creek bed near Enterprise OR when it was about 10 degrees. Ahh, youth and a nurturing parent.
Relatively speaking in the last 100 years or so not many people (per population density) have actually 'had' to hunt to fill their freezer. If you actually have a freezer then you are not too far from civilization. Even in the latter parts of the 1800's market hunters were accounting for a large part of the meat sold to consumers and their indiscriminate slaughter nearly wiped out certain species. (Crack a history book sometime that contains information on market hunting for a real eye-opener) Most people who we hear about who hunted to 'fill their freezer' did so not so much out of necessity but more due to availability of legal game close to home, The quality of fresh game meat over standard beef and the lifestyle of the person harvesting the game, meaning if the person grew up in hunting family then the chances were greater he/she would continue the tradition providing the other elements were present, specifically availability and proximity to the game. Nowadays unless maybe some areas of Alaska, Canada and possibly some other isolated areas of the US most of us do not have the availability nor the quantity of game to 'fill a freezer' nor did we ever. For most of us even if we are lucky enough to draw a tag the per lb. cost of the game would be alarming taking all costs into consideration.Reminds of talking to a guy in Idaho that grew up hunting to actually fill up the freezer. I asked if he hunted now, he laughed, he said they had a Safeway in town now. I've seen Eskimo interviews that went about the same way.
A universal truth indeed.Humans are either hunters or grass eaters. In history, the hunters usually end up ruling the grass eaters.
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I could be wrong, but given the title of this thread, I don't think you "understand" as much as you think you do.Reminds of talking to a guy in Idaho that grew up hunting to actually fill up the freezer. I asked if he hunted now, he laughed, he said they had a Safeway in town now. I've seen Eskimo interviews that went about the same way.
This is less a diatribe against all hunters but those that do so for fun, for entertainment.
Not that I am a vegan or some hippy, I just don't get shooting animals and watching them die.
Personally I think most of your sport hunters are really, in the end, insecure, as that is all the power they can get in their lives.
If you want to man up, put on some gloves and do some MMA.
Walk into the ODFW, you are likely to meet a few.Amazing how killing animals 'helps' them in the hunter's logic. Haven't met a PHd hunter yet. Gosh, I wonder why.
Relatively speaking in the last 100 years or so not many people (per population density) have actually 'had' to hunt to fill their freezer. If you actually have a freezer then you are not too far from civilization. Even in the latter parts of the 1800's market hunters were accounting for a large part of the meat sold to consumers and their indiscriminate slaughter nearly wiped out certain species. (Crack a history book sometime that contains information on market hunting for a real eye-opener) Most people who we hear about who hunted to 'fill their freezer' did so not so much out of necessity but more due to availability of legal game close to home, The quality of fresh game meat over standard beef and the lifestyle of the person harvesting the game, meaning if the person grew up in hunting family then the chances were greater he/she would continue the tradition providing the other elements were present, specifically availability and proximity to the game. Nowadays unless maybe some areas of Alaska, Canada and possibly some other isolated areas of the US most of us do not have the availability nor the quantity of game to 'fill a freezer' nor did we ever. For most of us even if we are lucky enough to draw a tag the per lb. cost of the game would be alarming taking all costs into consideration.
+1 ^
We have Neanderthal DNA, are just animals in every sense of the word, so it is in our nature to gravitate toward killing and dominating other species and other men. We are what we are, big deal.
... as the philosopher William T. Kirk once said, "We can admit that we're killers... but we're not going to kill today."
Ohhh, so that's who you are!When I was range mastering at Emerald Empire I used to ask guys about the cost of driving to Eastern Oregon to 'feed their family' and have 'non steroid meat'. Never ended well as they were arguing the indefensible.