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What to do if there is an active shooter at Portland State University?

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by edison bulb, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. edison bulb

    edison bulb Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    Portland State University has a video titled "RUN.HIDE.FIGHT" that gives students and staff members strategies on how to deal with an active shooter.

    Notice in the video that the shooter walks into a building that has a sign banning concealed firearms [0:58]. Interestingly enough, the video suggests the following as a "last resort":

    "As a last resort, if your life is at risk, whether you're alone or working together as a group, fight! Act with aggression. Improvise weapons. Disarm him and commit to taking the shooter down, no matter what."​

    And so we see scared individuals using fire extinguishers and chairs against an armed opponent...

     
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  2. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Hmmm, since I would have ignored the sign (if I ever went there), I'd shoot him.
    Funny how fighting back is the last resort... Violence only knows one enemy. Violence.
     
  3. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    What the heck! No evil assault rifle with a drum mag?!

    Any way yeah, the vid is a stand alone pretty good PSA about the need for CC in schools and workplaces. A liberal mind doesn't work like mine though. They see it as, "If only we had a few more gun laws in this country" then this would not be possible.

    If I was going to turn it into a pro gun ad I'd scroll stats on the MASSIVE amount of guns that are out there on the streets now, how many were sold in the past 6 years and how homicidal maniacs and criminals don't care about stupid laws.
     
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  4. edison bulb

    edison bulb Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I bet with $400 or less in cash, just about any homeless angel downtown could point you in the right direction of a gun. Guns are out there. There is no stopping that. Law abiding citizens with CHLs are the only solution, because when seconds count, the police are only minutes away!
     
  5. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    I love how the cops are wearing literally full active duty military combat gear. I remember in 2007 after my third deployment I came to visit family here. We went downtown to the Rose Festival. Portland Police had a booth that was being manned by SWAT. ALL of their gear (to include knockoff MARPAT fatigues) was nearly identical to my active duty marine unit.
     
  6. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    The question; "....What to do if there is an active shooter at Portland State University?...."
    The answer; "...return fire and terminate the threat..!!..."

    ...trick question, right...??....:D
     
  7. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    After you shoot him they'll likely try to get you arrested for trespass with a firearm.
     
  8. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    The dummies could just avoid this scenerio altogether by going to PCC and let PSU wither on the "liberal vine". :D
     
  9. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I'll take trespassing over death, anyday. That's another trick question, right..??...;)
     
  10. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Clearly this question proves that you ARE "blinded by science". ;)
     
  11. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I would rather be judged by twelve than carried by sixo_O
     
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  12. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I have been known occasionally to carry where I'm 'not supposed to'. Certainly not in banks or federal buildings, but when it comes to private businesses that have it in for concealed carry, I may have carried there a time or three. Maybe. My preference is to not patronize such businesses, but there are a couple of exceptions. Concealed carry means just that - and no one will know I'm carrying unless there's a problem requiring an armed response. If they want to prosecute me for trespassing after the fact , I'm OK with that. Beats the alternative all to heck, I do believe......
     
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  13. 7SFCW4

    7SFCW4 Out and About, Oregon Active Member

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    Very funny, they should also provide free Estrogen Therapy for all the male students!

    Bad guy?

    BE THE GOOD GUY, take a deep breath, exhale slowly, confirm a good sight picture with nothing behind the target, practice proper trigger control.

    Reload and by golly, get to that Math Class before the bell rings!
     
  14. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Why do the "Bad Guys" always have to look like my Hero Bruce Willis :(
     
  15. 7SFCW4

    7SFCW4 Out and About, Oregon Active Member

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    the Bruce Willis connection is bothersome, definetly
     
  16. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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  17. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    The Liberal Death Cult on full display, a perfect example of r VS K Type theory, I say hide but not until you have a good supply of pop-corn on hand!
    Police: Michigan man stabs, wounds conductor and 3 passengers in attack on Amtrak train
    By: The Associated Press

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    In this undated photo provided by the Berrien County Sheriff's Department via the South Bend Tribune, Michael Williams, 44, of Saginaw, Michigan, poses for a booking photo, in Michigan. Williams, accused of stabbing a conductor and three passengers on an Amtrak passenger train in southwestern Michigan before officers subdued him, has been charged with four counts of attempted murder, police said Saturday, Dec. 6, 2014. Police did not disclose a possible motive, and it wasn't immediately clear when Williams would make his initial court appearance on the charges. (AP Photo/Berrien County Sheriff's Department via the South Bend Tribune)
    NILES, Mich. - A man accused of stabbing a conductor and three passengers on an Amtrak train in southwestern Michigan before officers subdued him has been charged with four counts of attempted murder, police said Saturday.
    Police identified the suspect in Friday night's attack as Michael Williams, 44, of Saginaw. They didn't disclose a possible motive, and it wasn't immediately clear when Williams would make his initial court appearance on the charges.
    According to Niles police Chief Jim Millin, a dispatcher received a call at around 7 p.m. from someone on the train about a suspicious person. When officers arrived at the depot in Niles, which is about 10 miles north of South Bend Indiana, the attack was already underway.
    Millin said the officers pushed their way through fleeing passengers and confronted Williams, who was carrying a knife. They used a stun gun to subdue him and took him into custody.
    The four victims — three males and a female — were taken to Lakeland-Niles Hospital or Memorial Hospital in South Bend. Niles Mayor Michael McCauslin said the wounded included the train's conductor, a female passenger and two male passengers.
    Millin said that although initial reports were that at least one of the victims was in serious condition, all four victims were in stable condition Saturday.
    The train, which had been carrying 172 passengers, remained in Niles for hours after the attack while investigators gathered evidence and spoke to witnesses. It finally resumed its journey at 1:20 a.m. Saturday.
    Passenger Tyler Vandermolen told South Bend NBC affiliate WNDU-TV that he was sitting several rows from where the stabbing occurred, and that it could have been worse if not for the quick police response.
    "You see the police getting a lot for bad press with the stuff going on around the country these days, but you got to give it up for these guys they were there ... within seconds of this happening," Vandermolen said. "It was pretty incredible that they may have saved some lives today."
    Passenger Caitlin Cipri told the South Bend Tribune that she was packing her things to get off the train when she heard screaming. She initially thought the suspect was punching a passenger until she saw the butt of a knife. Cipri said she then saw the man stab two other people.
    "It was terrifying and you don't think something like that is going to happen to you," Cipri said. "It's terrifying that things like this happen."
     
  18. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Improvise weapons?

    I laughed. You are truly f'd in that situation with out matching or exceeding firepower.
     
  19. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I simply do not go to places where concealed carry is prohibited. :)
     
  20. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "Concealed Carry"...Means no one knows you have it. Right?;)

    Then it's a mote point unless there is trouble.:cool: