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They'll keep throwing this bubblegum at the wall until it sticks.
Eventually, it will stick. This may be the year. The gun-haters have been frustrated nationally over the inertia that has come over this issue. But in a long-standing Blue state like Wash., they can pull it off with virtually no political consequences. It won't surprise me if it passes this time around.

A couple of points in the law as proposed that bother me more than hardware issues.

1. The restrictions on where they may be used. There is room for interpretation as worded. There is plenty of room for law enforcement ignorance, once implemented. "Lawful outdoor recreational activity" of shooting on public lands might be very narrowly read. A ranger might say, "It says right here, while at a duly licensed firing range or while hunting; you're not doing either one of those, you're shooting in the woods." Which is a Class C Felony for violation, boys and girls.

2. The extremely limited right of transfer is very close to the taking of private property. The only way to transfer one of these firearms is to die. Many heirs concerned simply won't want to deal with this.
 
WA MAG LIMITS CLOSER TO PASSING.
The WA state House bill on magazine limits is now moving forward as SB 5078. Originally filed a year ago with a 10 round max limit, as it stands today it is defined as more than 17 rounds. If passed, it becomes effective within 90 days. If you own a mag with more than 17 rounds after the effective date, you are grandfathered in and can keep it, however you can only use it at home, place of business, or a range. It must be unloaded and locked up during transport.

My read is respectfully the restrictions on where they can be used are not open for much interpretation, and hoping LEO will look the other way depends on that specific LEO. While 17 rds won't affect a majority of handguns, the point is it's still unnecessary infringement only on the law abiding.

Between the recent changes in the legislature, and the (not my word) "reasonable" 17 round limit, this is more likely to pass than the last five consecutive years. Don't get defeated, make your voices heard by your local representative. Speak out!
 
A stunning poll turnaround in Washington State could drive Seattle liberals nuts and possibly foretell a flip in state politics come November, which would be good news for beleaguered Evergreen State gun owners and taxpayers in general.
According to veteran pollster Stuart Elway, his poll earlier this month revealed "The percentage of respondents who identified as Republican had jumped 10 points since last July to close the gap with Democrats, from 18 percentage points to 7."
Worth mentioning in your emails to legislators?

 
This needs to happen here, complacency will only cause us to lose our rights; all of us Washingtonians need to fight back hard in regards to the ever going onslaught of new restrictions put on law-abiding gun owners.

 
I got a note from my state senator this morning that the assault weapon ban - WA SB5127 - did not make it in time to proceed in this legislative session. I am sure it will be back though.
 

And people wonder if it can get any worse...


Dan

Detailed Legislative Reports - Topical Index : 2021-22

The report shows all versions of each bill. Bolded bills with asterisks have passed the Legislature.
  • FIREARMS rss_button.gif (See also WEAPONS )

    • Aiming or discharge of firearm or dangerous weapon, unlawful, provisions: HB 1038
    • Ammunition, firearm magazines/loading devices of any size, constitutional amendment to allow for self-defense: SJR 8205
    • Ammunition, large capacity magazines, definition and prohibitions: SB 5078, HB 1164, SSB 5078
    • Assault weapon, defining with list of specific firearms: SB 5217, HB 1229
    • Assault weapons, requirements and prohibitions: SB 5217, HB 1229
    • Clay targets, sales and use tax exemptions: SB 5187
    • Election-related offices/facilities, firearms/weapons in, gross misdemeanor: HB 1618, SB 5846
    • Extreme risk protection orders, moving to a single civil protection orders chapter: HB 1320, SB 5297, SHB 1320, * E2SHB 1320, CH 215 (2021)
    • Extreme risk protection orders, updating and modifying: HB 1901, SB 5845
    • Firearm rights, voluntary waiver of, firearm possession or control after, civil infraction: SB 5491
    • Firearm rights, voluntary waiver of, various provisions, modifying: SB 5491
    • Firearms/ammunition, replacing "military equipment" prohibition for law enforcement with "prohibited equipment" list: SB 5569, HB 1737
    • Firearms/ammunition, when "military equipment," acquisition/use by law enforcement, clarifying prohibiting of: HB 1634, HB 1719
    • Firearms/ammunition, when "military equipment," acquisition/use by law enforcement, prohibiting of: HB 1054, * ESHB 1054, CH 320 (2021)
    • Forfeited firearms, destroying of, policies/criteria for when: HB 1134
    • Ghost guns and ghost gun kits, prohibitions/penalties: HB 1705, SHB 1705
    • Governing body meetings, firearm/weapon open carrying in location of, prohibiting: HB 1630
    • Gun clubs, nonprofit, clay target sales and use tax exemptions for: SB 5187
    • Loss or theft, owner/possessor who suffers, mandatory reporting and failure to report: HB 1133
    • Marketing/advertising to minors via internet/mobile application, prohibitions: HB 1697, SHB 1697
    • Murder, first degree, aggravated, eliminating firearm discharge from/near motor vehicle as basis for: HB 1692
    • Open carrying, at capitol campus memorial events by color guard/honor guard, exemption from prohibition: SB 5690
    • Open carrying, at meeting/facility/demonstration, municipality authority to restrict: SB 5568
    • Open carrying, at public demonstration or state capitol, prohibiting: SB 5038
    • Open carrying, knowingly, at permitted demonstration or state capitol, prohibiting, when: * ESSB 5038, CH 261 (2021)
    • Openly carrying/displaying in threatening manner, as criminal mischief, class C felony: HB 1283, SHB 1283
    • Pistols, license for concealed, public records disclosure exemption, when: SB 5095
    • Possession, by school personnel with valid concealed pistol license: HB 1481
    • Possession, in certain places, local government regulation of, in addition to or more restrictive than state law: HB 1313
    • Possession, in election-related offices/facilities, gross misdemeanor: HB 1618, SB 5846
    • Possession, in state capitol campus buildings, on west capitol grounds, or in certain other buildings, prohibiting: HB 1234
    • Possession, person suspected of, peace officer use of force to ensure officer/others' safety when: SB 5577
    • Possession, right to possess, petitioning court to restore, when: HB 1026, SB 5561
    • Possession, unlawful, after aiming/discharging or animal cruelty conviction: HB 1038
    • Possession, unlawful, in second degree, various provisions: HB 1038
    • Possession, unlawful, when voluntary waiver of firearm rights in effect: SB 5491
    • Regulation of firearms, local government regulation of, in addition to or more restrictive than state law: HB 1313
    • Regulation of firearms, state preemption of, repealing: HB 1313
    • School district boards of directors, firearms/weapons in facilities during meetings of, prohibiting: HB 1630
    • School districts/educational service districts, information on firearms/ammunition on websites of: HB 1759
    • Sentencing enhancements for firearms, consecutive, resentencing, petition for: HB 1169, SHB 1169
    • Sentencing enhancements for firearms, earned release time, when: HB 1282, SB 5285, SHB 1282
    • Suicide, by veterans/military members, firearm temporary storage by dealer to prevent: HB 1181, SHB 1181
    • Target shooting, on DNR-managed lands: SB 5865
    • Theft of firearm from residence, store, shop, sales outlet, or vehicle, class B felony: SB 5407
    • Transfers, temporary, between owner and museum/historical society, background check requirement exemption for: SB 5856
    • Untraceable firearms and unfinished frames/receivers, prohibitions/penalties: HB 1705, SHB 1705
    • Untraceable firearms and unfinished frames/receivers, standards for marking with serial numbers: SHB 1705
The report shows all versions of each bill. Bolded bills with asterisks have passed the Legislature.
 
None of the mag ban bills have even made it to the floor for a vote. This is thanks to those who are organizing the effort to oppose them, and all the people who took five minutes out of their day to speak up against this nonsense.
 

And people wonder if it can get any worse...


Dan

Detailed Legislative Reports - Topical Index : 2021-22

The report shows all versions of each bill. Bolded bills with asterisks have passed the Legislature.
  • FIREARMS View attachment 1124662 (See also WEAPONS )

    • Aiming or discharge of firearm or dangerous weapon, unlawful, provisions: HB 1038
    • Ammunition, firearm magazines/loading devices of any size, constitutional amendment to allow for self-defense: SJR 8205
    • Ammunition, large capacity magazines, definition and prohibitions: SB 5078, HB 1164, SSB 5078
    • Assault weapon, defining with list of specific firearms: SB 5217, HB 1229
    • Assault weapons, requirements and prohibitions: SB 5217, HB 1229
    • Clay targets, sales and use tax exemptions: SB 5187
    • Election-related offices/facilities, firearms/weapons in, gross misdemeanor: HB 1618, SB 5846
    • Extreme risk protection orders, moving to a single civil protection orders chapter: HB 1320, SB 5297, SHB 1320, * E2SHB 1320, CH 215 (2021)
    • Extreme risk protection orders, updating and modifying: HB 1901, SB 5845
    • Firearm rights, voluntary waiver of, firearm possession or control after, civil infraction: SB 5491
    • Firearm rights, voluntary waiver of, various provisions, modifying: SB 5491
    • Firearms/ammunition, replacing "military equipment" prohibition for law enforcement with "prohibited equipment" list: SB 5569, HB 1737
    • Firearms/ammunition, when "military equipment," acquisition/use by law enforcement, clarifying prohibiting of: HB 1634, HB 1719
    • Firearms/ammunition, when "military equipment," acquisition/use by law enforcement, prohibiting of: HB 1054, * ESHB 1054, CH 320 (2021)
    • Forfeited firearms, destroying of, policies/criteria for when: HB 1134
    • Ghost guns and ghost gun kits, prohibitions/penalties: HB 1705, SHB 1705
    • Governing body meetings, firearm/weapon open carrying in location of, prohibiting: HB 1630
    • Gun clubs, nonprofit, clay target sales and use tax exemptions for: SB 5187
    • Loss or theft, owner/possessor who suffers, mandatory reporting and failure to report: HB 1133
    • Marketing/advertising to minors via internet/mobile application, prohibitions: HB 1697, SHB 1697
    • Murder, first degree, aggravated, eliminating firearm discharge from/near motor vehicle as basis for: HB 1692
    • Open carrying, at capitol campus memorial events by color guard/honor guard, exemption from prohibition: SB 5690
    • Open carrying, at meeting/facility/demonstration, municipality authority to restrict: SB 5568
    • Open carrying, at public demonstration or state capitol, prohibiting: SB 5038
    • Open carrying, knowingly, at permitted demonstration or state capitol, prohibiting, when: * ESSB 5038, CH 261 (2021)
    • Openly carrying/displaying in threatening manner, as criminal mischief, class C felony: HB 1283, SHB 1283
    • Pistols, license for concealed, public records disclosure exemption, when: SB 5095
    • Possession, by school personnel with valid concealed pistol license: HB 1481
    • Possession, in certain places, local government regulation of, in addition to or more restrictive than state law: HB 1313
    • Possession, in election-related offices/facilities, gross misdemeanor: HB 1618, SB 5846
    • Possession, in state capitol campus buildings, on west capitol grounds, or in certain other buildings, prohibiting: HB 1234
    • Possession, person suspected of, peace officer use of force to ensure officer/others' safety when: SB 5577
    • Possession, right to possess, petitioning court to restore, when: HB 1026, SB 5561
    • Possession, unlawful, after aiming/discharging or animal cruelty conviction: HB 1038
    • Possession, unlawful, in second degree, various provisions: HB 1038
    • Possession, unlawful, when voluntary waiver of firearm rights in effect: SB 5491
    • Regulation of firearms, local government regulation of, in addition to or more restrictive than state law: HB 1313
    • Regulation of firearms, state preemption of, repealing: HB 1313
    • School district boards of directors, firearms/weapons in facilities during meetings of, prohibiting: HB 1630
    • School districts/educational service districts, information on firearms/ammunition on websites of: HB 1759
    • Sentencing enhancements for firearms, consecutive, resentencing, petition for: HB 1169, SHB 1169
    • Sentencing enhancements for firearms, earned release time, when: HB 1282, SB 5285, SHB 1282
    • Suicide, by veterans/military members, firearm temporary storage by dealer to prevent: HB 1181, SHB 1181
    • Target shooting, on DNR-managed lands: SB 5865
    • Theft of firearm from residence, store, shop, sales outlet, or vehicle, class B felony: SB 5407
    • Transfers, temporary, between owner and museum/historical society, background check requirement exemption for: SB 5856
    • Untraceable firearms and unfinished frames/receivers, prohibitions/penalties: HB 1705, SHB 1705
    • Untraceable firearms and unfinished frames/receivers, standards for marking with serial numbers: SHB 1705
The report shows all versions of each bill. Bolded bills with asterisks have passed the Legislature.
Ok, 1054, 1320, and 5038 are the ones that made it through the Legislature. What does this mean for Washingtonians?

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5038 was passed last year. Effective May 2021.
ESHB1054 clarified the earlier anti-police military equipment law.
1320 overhauls domestic violence and red flag laws, which includes firearms surrenders for those restrained.
 
Apologies, I wasn't keeping up. Cross-posting an update from WaGuns.net (thanks @Mad Pick for keeping on top of this stuff!)

Here's an update from Marion Bishop, a moderator in the Facebook "Washington 2022 Legislative Action Group - Save your civil rights" group. Here's the original post:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/walegis ... 215960732/

Or if you don't do Facebook, here it is:

2022 WA Legislative Session - Week 4 Summary and Week 5 Help Needed

Most important info first: SB 5217 (the AWB) is more than likely dead for this year. However, the other 2A-relevant bills are continuing through the process, and next week will be very busy with floor votes. Please continue reaching out to your Senators and Representatives urging them not to bring HB 1630, HB 1705, SB 5568, and SB 5078 to a vote. Scroll past the week 4 summary for more info.

Welcome to another in a series of threads discussing the 2A-relevant bills being discussed during this year's Washington state legislative session, which runs from 1/10 to 3/10. In these threads we will be providing an overview of the bills and how to take actions against the bad ones.

Week 4 Summary

Thursday (2/3) was the cutoff date for bills that have not been voted out of committee. SB 5217 (banning "assault weapons") had not been voted out of committee by that date, so is more than likely dead for this session. It is worth noting these cutoff dates are entirely up to the legislature and can be changed or suspended. It is also worth noting legislative trickery has been pulled in the last couple years to resurrect ostensibly dead bills. We cannot entirely take our eye off the ball regarding SB 5217, but going forward everyone should focus our efforts on the other remaining bills being considered. In the Senate, SB 5568 and SB 5078 are still alive and awaiting a floor vote.

Special note: SB 5217 set the record for the highest number of CON testifiers during the public hearings, totalling nearly 4400. (This record was later broken by testifiers on SB 5909, regarding emergency powers reform.) Nicely done and thank you for stepping up.

You can still take action against these remaining bad bills. For now, you can comment on these bills and have comments sent to your representatives:

Comment on SB 5568 (repealing state pre-emption of open carry at government-owned buildings and facilities (e.g. parks))
Comment on SB 5078 (banning standard capacity magazines)

In the House, two concerning bills have been voted out of the House Civil Rights & Judiciary Committee and could be scheduled for a floor vote sometime next week. These bills are HB 1630, which would ban firearms at school board meetings regardless of location, at election-related sites, and other facilities used for government meetings, and HB 1705 which will ban 80% receivers (and inadvertently, a whole lot more).

You can comment on these bills and have comments sent to your representatives:

Comment on HB 1630 (banning firearms at facilities being used for school board meetings and other facilities used for government body meetings)
Comment on HB 1705 (banning unfinished receivers (i.e. "ghost guns")

Week 5 Help Needed

Keeping SB 5568, SB 5078, HB 1630, and HB 1705 from getting a floor vote is our priority for next week. Next week will be busy with floor sessions Tuesday-Friday, and many bills receiving floor votes. Legislators have seen how many of us are paying attention and are hoping our scrutiny subsides. We need all hands on deck, even if you have already done so, to call/email your senator and representatives in opposition. If you've already done so, now is the time for a second call/email. A large volume of calls/emails is needed. We are especially looking for support from women, LGBTQ, and BIPOC individuals to help dispel some legislators' assumption that the gun-owning community in Washington is some monolithic white, rural, male entity. If these bills make it to the other chamber, the committees will hear public testimony again, likely in the next couple of weeks. We are proactively seeking folks who are interested in testifying, so please reach out if that interests you. We are also asking that you invite two like-minded friends to take the same actions.

My recommendation, especially when reaching out to Democrat legislators, is to highlight the racist history of gun control and disproportionate impact on poor and BIPOC communities. Arguments on the bills' clear technical issues and unconstitutionality are less likely to hold water with them, but are of course worth mentioning. More talking points and information are available here. If you have Republican legislators, reach out to them, let them know it is a priority for you that these bills do not pass, and thank them for their opposition.

It is also worth pointing out to your legislators that gun control loses votes and this is an election year for 24 senators and every representative. Senate seats in legislative districts 6, 7, 8, 13, 15, 21, 26, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, and 48 are up for grabs this year, so consider that talking point if you reside in one of the aforementioned legislative districts. Each seat in the house is up for reelection this year, which is worth bringing up in comments to your representative.

If you are in a weak Democrat/swing district, it is even more critical to reach out. A list of legislators we are focusing on is as follows:

Kevin Van de Wege (D) - LD 24 - [email protected] - 360-786-7646
Steve Conway (D) - LD 29* - [email protected] - 360-786-7656
Mark Mullet (D) - LD 5 - [email protected] - 360-786-7608
John Lovick (D) - LD 44* - [email protected] - 253-275-1405
T'wina Nobles (D) - LD 28 - T'[email protected] - 360-786-7654
Annette Cleveland (D) - LD 49 - [email protected] - 360-786-7696
Emily Randall (D) - LD 26* - [email protected] - 360-786-7650
Mona Das (D) - LD 47* - [email protected] - 360-786-7692
Claire Wilson (D) - LD 30* - [email protected] - 360-786-7658
Andy Billig (D) - LD 3 - [email protected] - 360-786-7604

Legislative districts with an asterisk (*) have their senate seats up for reelection this fall.

Numbers matter and we must keep the pressure on. It unquestionably helps our cause to have overwhelming amounts of testimony opposing these bills. Keep your comments civil, articulate, and brief. For written testimony I would advise keeping it to one paragraph.

Please reach out if you have questions and thank you for stepping up to defend your rights. We have stopped bad legislation in the past few years and with your help, will continue to do so.
 

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