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DANG!!! Now you guys are scaring me away from dealing with people on THIS site!
Just think of as big teddy bears with guns!
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Time to vent... Tried to purchase a rifle private party and wasted my time
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Just think of as big teddy bears with guns!
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Haha, there you go. I'm more of a hulk type - try to be the nicest guy in the world until you piss me off.
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This must have been one heck of a good deal on a rare gun for you to put up with so much grief! I would have walked after the first blow off.
I would have walked after the first blow off.
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WOW !DANG!!! Now you guys are scaring me away from dealing with people on THIS site!
What do you guys need a gun for? @5' 5" I just carry a sling and a pocket full of rocks (9mm) of course...
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OP's experience is uber kreepy!
Had a guy on hear asking to trade for my shotgun.
-wanted pictures of it, because he forgot what it was, I responded with see my ad.
-asked him 4 times how many rounds he had fired with his weapon, and if it had given him any problems. On the fifth time I asked the same question, he responded he had never fired it, but it was his EDC...hmmm....
25 PMs later, when I reminded him that the trade was to be done at an FFL near me, and we would both pay our respective fees...all of a sudden not interested...This was the 4th time the same user contacted me about a trade.
He had even texted me once about a month ago along the lines of "...hey bud...I have that pistol you wanted...what you got...". Didn't respond to that, & the above odd PMs were from last week.
Had a guy on hear asking to trade for my shotgun.
-wanted pictures of it, because he forgot what it was, I responded with see my ad.
-asked him 4 times how many rounds he had fired with his weapon, and if it had given him any problems. On the fifth time I asked the same question, he responded he had never fired it, but it was his EDC...hmmm....
25 PMs later, when I reminded him that the trade was to be done at an FFL near me, and we would both pay our respective fees...all of a sudden not interested...This was the 4th time the same user contacted me about a trade.
He had even texted me once about a month ago along the lines of "...hey bud...I have that pistol you wanted...what you got...". Didn't respond to that, & the above odd PMs were from last week.
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WOW !
Now now. Were all the same size on the internet.
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I only made it about 1/3the way thru your post.
That would have been the end of my story.
He would have told me he had another buyer and I'm done. Then call to reschedule? B effing S
I'm done.
I put my 2 glocks and some ammo on there.
Is it still for sale? Delete
That would have been the end of my story.
He would have told me he had another buyer and I'm done. Then call to reschedule? B effing S
I'm done.
I put my 2 glocks and some ammo on there.
Is it still for sale? Delete
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@Kristina I am tempted to put you on Ignore just so I won't scroll past that picture any more.
Sorry!
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Yeah it's still there on armslist. All his ads are. I posted my initial thread on armslist and to my surprise got some positive responses back.
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I won't even visit that site anymore.
That is a scary weird situation. The gun was probably stolen.
I only buy/sell used on here or gunbroker.
And anyone on here with less than 500 postings is sketchy.
I might have gave the LEOs that guys number.
That is a scary weird situation. The gun was probably stolen.
I only buy/sell used on here or gunbroker.
And anyone on here with less than 500 postings is sketchy.
I might have gave the LEOs that guys number.
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I just did a trade where I met some one half way between seattle and wenatchee in the only town we could find that had a gun store. It went perfect so se went forward with the deal.
I have had deals where people would not agree to meet at a gun store, I just decline. I will not go to some one's house to preview or do any gun deal, unless it is a friend or friend of a friend type thing, but that is gun deals.
Just bought a 32" Samsung LCD TV for my office from a local guy who listed it on craigslist and went to his house to do the deal. It is Wenatchee so not too worried, though I know shi-it can happen here too that is why the trusty nine was in my front pocket. Guy turned out to be super cool, home based TV repair guy, knew some people I know and was a gun enthusiast also. We ended up talking for a while. Told me to look him up if I ever needed a TV worked on.
Guess I just been lucky.
Sold a Glock a few yrs ago, right after 594 took effect and had a heck of a time getting people to come to a gun store to do it legally. About 5 people tried talking me out of that and just meeting and doing the deal, I always said love to but too much to lose if I got caught so can't do it.
Tell you what 594 sucks. After all the trouble I went through selling that Glock, I was super pissed at wa for 594.
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I have had deals where people would not agree to meet at a gun store, I just decline. I will not go to some one's house to preview or do any gun deal, unless it is a friend or friend of a friend type thing, but that is gun deals.
Just bought a 32" Samsung LCD TV for my office from a local guy who listed it on craigslist and went to his house to do the deal. It is Wenatchee so not too worried, though I know shi-it can happen here too that is why the trusty nine was in my front pocket. Guy turned out to be super cool, home based TV repair guy, knew some people I know and was a gun enthusiast also. We ended up talking for a while. Told me to look him up if I ever needed a TV worked on.
Guess I just been lucky.
Sold a Glock a few yrs ago, right after 594 took effect and had a heck of a time getting people to come to a gun store to do it legally. About 5 people tried talking me out of that and just meeting and doing the deal, I always said love to but too much to lose if I got caught so can't do it.
Tell you what 594 sucks. After all the trouble I went through selling that Glock, I was super pissed at wa for 594.
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fk that guy. sorry man.
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Dude, you're WAY more patient than I ever would have been. For me the deal would have been off after the second sentence of your story.
I've had nothing but the best dealings here. Gun deals I've done have all been at my house or the sellers. Only one was in a parking lot, and was fine. I depend on my own judgment. I seem to have always had a knack for reading people. I would have absolutely read the OPs situation and backed out before going to some creepy flag lot without absolute confirmation!
With the added cost of the background checks, and going miles to meet someone, and you have to have a chance to look at firearm in a comfortable setting.....If I ever see something I have to have I just go to Kieth's and have them order it! Heck, I'll probably never buy a gun from a private party again!
With the added cost of the background checks, and going miles to meet someone, and you have to have a chance to look at firearm in a comfortable setting.....If I ever see something I have to have I just go to Kieth's and have them order it! Heck, I'll probably never buy a gun from a private party again!
So, I've got one gun for sale right now - been on NWFA for a couple of weeks now, and not a single hit. I've had several hits on AL, one that's supposed to get back to me on his day off on Monday - we'll see. In the meantime, yesterday I got a message from a buyer that sounded, at first, like a good lead. Then he asked about shipping to him in WA - Puget Sound area. Now, I've sold a number of guns out of state, including on AL, but I've learned a few things to help keep myself from fraud - and it's been attempted on me a number of times over AL.
First, a couple of red flags - I told him I'd get back to him with an estimate on shipping. Before I could do that, he came back a little later and offered to pay me more than I knew it would cost to ship it. For the most part, anyone who offers you more than necessary or what you're asking, is pulling a scam, since most folks want to dicker over even a few dollars. Second, he wanted to mail me a cashier's check right away, said it would 'clear in a day, then I could ship immediately'. Red flag #2 - cashier's checks, if fraudulent, can take 3 weeks or longer to truly 'clear' the bank - even if they cash it, you are on the hook if they find it's a fake.
So, I responded back with my requirements - contact info for his FFL so I could speak to them directly about the transfer. The next had to do with payment - either PayPal 'gift' or USPS Money Order, mailed to me from the issuing post office.
His response - silence. I've learned putting these very simple requirements on an out of state buyer will usually shut them down if they are a scammer. The good deals I've done out of state didn't flinch at all at my simple requirements.
Hopefully the guy on Monday will come through.
First, a couple of red flags - I told him I'd get back to him with an estimate on shipping. Before I could do that, he came back a little later and offered to pay me more than I knew it would cost to ship it. For the most part, anyone who offers you more than necessary or what you're asking, is pulling a scam, since most folks want to dicker over even a few dollars. Second, he wanted to mail me a cashier's check right away, said it would 'clear in a day, then I could ship immediately'. Red flag #2 - cashier's checks, if fraudulent, can take 3 weeks or longer to truly 'clear' the bank - even if they cash it, you are on the hook if they find it's a fake.
So, I responded back with my requirements - contact info for his FFL so I could speak to them directly about the transfer. The next had to do with payment - either PayPal 'gift' or USPS Money Order, mailed to me from the issuing post office.
His response - silence. I've learned putting these very simple requirements on an out of state buyer will usually shut them down if they are a scammer. The good deals I've done out of state didn't flinch at all at my simple requirements.
Hopefully the guy on Monday will come through.
There was a time (pre 594) when AL followers were copacetic. I sold to parties across the U.S. without issue, and because of the distance, it was FFL-to-FFL, AFTER receiving/cashing the postal MO. Communication, description, and high resolution images was key to a positive outcome for both of us, as I wanted said buyer to literally see every aspect of what they were buying, and what they would have in their hands upon receipt. My policy, I divulged everything I knew about said firearm to the best of my knowledge. So, please, if you have any concerns, ask now. If you commit to purchase, there are no returns. We both were very pleased with the transaction.
These days, there are too many tire kickers looking for something for nothing. Craigslist has the same disease.
These days, there are too many tire kickers looking for something for nothing. Craigslist has the same disease.
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I had one of those experiences a few years ago on CL (non-firearm). A barrage of emails asking to ship for an unreasonable overage, a "shipping company" pickup, out of state cashiers check, wouldn't call me to discuss condition or details, etc.
I gave them the King County Sheriff's office to mail the cashiers check. When they emailed back a few days later to see if the check arrived I told them I'd pick it up at the Sheriff's office today--and that was the last I heard from them. That was kindof fun...
The flip side is I've sold and given away more than 100 things on CL and have had about 98% positive experiences. As a buyer I've run about 60% positive though. Some stories don't exactly add up, and that's all I need to walk away.
I gave them the King County Sheriff's office to mail the cashiers check. When they emailed back a few days later to see if the check arrived I told them I'd pick it up at the Sheriff's office today--and that was the last I heard from them. That was kindof fun...
The flip side is I've sold and given away more than 100 things on CL and have had about 98% positive experiences. As a buyer I've run about 60% positive though. Some stories don't exactly add up, and that's all I need to walk away.
