Time to buy the semi auto rifles I have on my wish list?

[tkdguy]

So both Washington and Oregon are looking to ban so called "assault rifles" during the next legislative sessions. Based on this, my question is, should I go ahead and charge what I have been wanting to buy that will be banned under proposed the legislation, which I hate to use credit for this, or should I just let things play out and buy when I have the cash? On one hand, if they do get things passed, which in Oregon the Dems have the majority to be able to do whatever they want, then I would like like a genius for buying before the ban, but if they don't pass then I will be stuck paying them off. Plus, I have to think of a good way to sell this idea to the wife. What do you guys think?

I think this is a very good idea. The value of these skyrockets.

 

[Medic!]

I see two issues .

1. Buying a EBR is a good thing at this time.

2. Spending money you don't have?

 

[etrain16]

One of the biggest issues with buying those higher cap semi-auto guns now is that the time to do it was a while ago. I honestly didn't worry or think much about it myself until Sandy Hook and the B.S. that Obama tried to pull on us, got my attention. The last time I got a wake-up call like that was the 1996 AWB by Clinton. But even then, I only focused on a pistol or two and kind of went back to my ways.

The last few years, I have focused any extra $$ I have toward getting certain guns that I want and I think I may have a tough time getting down the road. For the most part, I have accomplished that, but it's taken time and I did it without going into debt. Fortunately, things went my way for the most part, and the bans I anticipated were coming, haven't come, yet. I think they are on the way, and I will continue to build my collection of potentially hard to get items right up to the end. Then, I will hold on to them and be glad I had some chance to plan ahead.

Unfortunately, time to gather what you want is most likely running very short. You may have, at best, up until next summer to gather what you want. At worst, the election in November both nationally and in our state go badly and another post-SH buy-up begins, cleaning the shelves and sending prices through the roof. Once that happens, I may just have a 10/22 I can sell you for $800

If it's that important to you to have certain items now, items you may not be able to purchase in 6 months, well, then you may only really have one decision to make.

 

[etrain16]

Realistically, you may want to focus more on things like receivers (as many have mentioned) as well as higher capacity magazines. Mag capacity bans are very likely, though likely will grandfather in what you already own (we hope). In that case, if they don't ban the guns, but reduce mag capacity, you will still be able to buy the guns, but only 10-round or smaller magazines.

Something to keep in mind about things like magazines is that you can always go out of state and buy them if you need to. Likely not to be a nationwide mag capacity ban, so, you know..

 

[Goosebrown]

Wife just signed off on an STG-N

I love my wife.

HMG Sturmgewehr: STG-N

 

[tkdguy]

Wife just signed off on an STG-N

I love my wife.

HMG Sturmgewehr: STG-N

Wow!

 

[tkdguy]

One of the biggest issues with buying those higher cap semi-auto guns now is that the time to do it was a while ago. I honestly didn't worry or think much about it myself until Sandy Hook and the B.S. that Obama tried to pull on us, got my attention. The last time I got a wake-up call like that was the 1996 AWB by Clinton. But even then, I only focused on a pistol or two and kind of went back to my ways.

The last few years, I have focused any extra $$ I have toward getting certain guns that I want and I think I may have a tough time getting down the road. For the most part, I have accomplished that, but it's taken time and I did it without going into debt. Fortunately, things went my way for the most part, and the bans I anticipated were coming, haven't come, yet. I think they are on the way, and I will continue to build my collection of potentially hard to get items right up to the end. Then, I will hold on to them and be glad I had some chance to plan ahead.

Unfortunately, time to gather what you want is most likely running very short. You may have, at best, up until next summer to gather what you want. At worst, the election in November both nationally and in our state go badly and another post-SH buy-up begins, cleaning the shelves and sending prices through the roof. Once that happens, I may just have a 10/22 I can sell you for $800

If it's that important to you to have certain items now, items you may not be able to purchase in 6 months, well, then you may only really have one decision to make.

Why would a 10/22 go up in value but for their high capacity magazines?

 

[etrain16]

Why would a 10/22 go up in value but for their high capacity magazines?

Were you not around post SH around 2013? I saw a lot of 10/22's going for $600+, stock models.

It was simple demand. People wanted them, they couldn't get them, so people sold them for ridiculous prices and other people, in a panic, paid those prices.

 

[Goosebrown]

Were you not around post SH around 2013? I saw a lot of 10/22's going for $600+, stock models.

It was simple demand. People wanted them, they couldn't get them, so people sold them for ridiculous prices and other people, in a panic, paid those prices.

I will sell you ammo for that new $600 10/22 for a mere $.25 per round. A steal. (for me...)

 

[Brutus57]

Wife just signed off on an STG-N

I love my wife.

HMG Sturmgewehr: STG-N

I did NOT need to see that...my holy grail, pity I can't own a select fire version, The 5.56 version has caught my eye.... although the historian in me wants the 7.92x33 but then I would need a Panzer Division Grossdeutschland arm ribbon, feldmutze, P-38, camo smock, and handbuild an "Armored Fist".....so you see that initial $1900 just became several thousand. We all need dreams.

Glad I didn't by the .22 version, now I can get the full size after raising the scratch. An M1A Scout makes more tactical sense but who doesn't want to go full Senior Sergeant Steiner on hordes of zombies with an Stg-44??? "Bekommen, Aschloch!"

Brutus Out

 

[Goosebrown]

I did NOT need to see that...my holy grail, pity I can't own a select fire version, The 5.56 version has caught my eye.... although the historian in me wants the 7.92x33 but then I would need a Panzer Division Grossdeutschland arm ribbon, feldmutze, P-38, camo smock, and handbuild an "Armored Fist".....so you see that initial $1900 just became several thousand. We all need dreams.

Glad I didn't by the .22 version, now I can get the full size after raising the scratch. An M1A Scout makes more tactical sense but who doesn't want to go full Senior Sergeant Steiner on hordes of zombies with an Stg-44??? "Bekommen, Aschloch!"

Brutus Out

I am getting 8mm kurz... All the cool kids will...

You could be cool too...

Brieftasche hoch!
Die Reihen fest geschlossen!

 

[Doc In UPlace]

As Etrain said, it comes down to the legal definition. Insanely enough, right now my Ruger 22/45 pistol with its threaded barrel is an"assault weapon" in California.

So how hard is it for a 10/22 to be classified that way? Easy!

There are many considerations to take into account including the "can always sell it" idea. WA's AG is proposing a ban under which NO 'assault weapons' that are grandfathered in can be sold. So much for "always"!

The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers had a saying, and when modified a little, it would go, "Guns will get you through times of no money, better than money will get you through times of no guns."

Nobody can foresee the future, nor evaluate the value of the pieces you are considering vs. the increased cost of interest added to the c.c. purchase better than you.

If being secure in the knowledge that the possibly prohibited items are home safe, no matter what happens to local legislation is gonna be worth the additional cost, then there ya go.

 

[Diamondback]

My thinking for the Priority Buy List, in rough order:
--Parts to finish my first AR.
--Lowers.
--Magazines.
--Jigs and tools to complete 80%s and raw forgings.
--EPL's.

Logic is, the harder it is for me to fab myself the higher the priority of acquisition and stockpiling.

 

[Sgt Nambu]

Wife just signed off on an STG-N

I love my wife.

HMG Sturmgewehr: STG-N

Sweet, great rifle! Um....do you loan her out as a consultant?

 

[rdb241]

--Jigs and tools to complete 80%s and raw forgings.

I have been thinking this for quite sometime. I have been collecting tooling for a few years now. I have tooling for;

ALL AK variants including Yugo's and RPK's with the bulging front trunion
ALL 9 series HK's
ALL MAC series pistols
Tooling and jigs for AR-15
Tooling and jigs for AR-10
Tooling and jigs for the 1911 pistol
Welding jigs for ALL three sizes of the Uzi platform
I have made my own jigs for semi auto Sten and Sterling carbines

Now I just need to get a hold of a lathe and a bench top milling machine.......

 

[Goosebrown]

I am getting 8mm kurz... All the cool kids will...

You could be cool too...

Sweet, great rifle! Um....do you loan her out as a consultant?

LOL I can get her to OK a rifle for you. No problem.

 

[Sgt Nambu]

LOL I can get her to OK a rifle for you. No problem.

LOL!!! Thinking more of her talking my wife into an expensive rifle!

 

[3MTA3]

Normally I'd say save up for it, but there will be mag ban in February just a few months away. That will be followed by an AWB next election per Bloody Brown's press conference.

Buy now or cry later if you live in Oregon or Washington. If you want to minimize up front cost focus on mags, lowers, and ammo in that order, then build when you can. The other option is to buy the guns, mags, and ammo up front on a bank loan or credit card then moonlight after work to pay it off.

Also prioritize getting that CHL if you don't already have it. "shall issue" can vaporize in an instant this coming winter if Bloody Brown gets elected and its likely she will.

Do not wait until later when your rights have been taken away by those who get their own armed protection details and armed escort vehicles when they drive through your neighborhood.

 

[Goosebrown]

LOL!!! Thinking more of her talking my wife into an expensive rifle!

I can try ...

 

[Gene Rojas]

Don't buy on credit. Bad thing to do. Get ar lowers and mags then build when you can.

I built my first AR custom build as funds and time permitted- I had been saving for almost 6 mos. for it, so when it came time to starting ordering parts I got everything ordered within a week. I'm starting on my second build now- and with bills, my wife's birthday, and life in general looming in the distance, it looks like I may not finish it until next month. But that's okay- as long as the "big" stuff like the lower and upper receivers, barrel, and BCG are ordered, I can wait.

Buying lowers and mags is excellent advice too- it's easy to buy the parts to turn a lower into a complete rifle, and mags are like currency when the government threatens to ban guns or gun sales of certain models and prices spike.

Geno