Best 556 semi auto thats not an ar15

[bradsteen]

what did you add to those su 16? were you just able to add an ar stock and grip?

Blackout Solutions - PLR-16/SU-16

PLR-16 /SU-16 trigger housing -- Accepts AR Drop In Triggers

www.blackoutsolution.com

 

[Brian R]

after watching this thread for a bit I have a better understand of what I'm looking for. a mini 14 would not be a bad option with the folding stock

 

[Brian R]

I may have just wait for a sale on a br180, I have only seen them going for 850 or more on their website

 

[Brian R]

Blackout Solutions - PLR-16/SU-16

PLR-16 /SU-16 trigger housing -- Accepts AR Drop In Triggers

www.blackoutsolution.com

somehow i missed that thank you

 

[ilikegunspdx]

after watching this thread for a bit I have a better understand of what I'm looking for. a mini 14 would not be a bad option with the folding stock

Also one thing to think about is the modularity of an ar lower (if that is something you are interested in). Fe let's say you buy a complete lower for $139. Then get a stamp for $200. Now you can make any configuration you can dream up such as 8" 300 BO, 10.5" 556 truck gun with folding stock via $70 (on sale) sylvan arms folding adapter (must be unfolded before firing unlike the bufferless options I mentioned in an above post) or many other calibers/lengths.

Most of these bear creek armory uppers can be found for $180-$250 on sale which allows you to add whatever caliber you want.

Once you have that stamped lower, you have every option you can think of available. Fe a stamped lower ($339) + 300bo upper ($200) = $539, add other upper in other lengths or calibers for around $200 each. Or to stay low cost go with complete upper at $129 + foxtrot Mike at $439. Then add $50 jmac customs folding stock clone.

Here's that stock on a brn-180 pistol (scope just there for accuracy testing it doesn't live on that gun as it's way too big):


A laundry list of bear creek arsenal uppers available. 22lr, and 22 mag not shown.

 

[Brian R]

Also one thing to think about is the modularity of an ar lower (if that is something you are interested in). Fe let's say you buy a complete lower for $139. Then get a stamp for $200. Now you can make any configuration you can dream up such as 8" 300 BO, 10.5" 556 truck gun with folding stock via $70 (on sale) sylvan arms folding adapter (must be unfolded before firing unlike the bufferless options I mentioned in an above post) or many other calibers/lengths.

Most of these bear creek armory uppers can be found for $180-$250 on sale which allows you to add whatever caliber you want.

Once you have that stamped lower, you have every option you can think of available. Fe a stamped lower ($339) + 300bo upper ($200) = $539, add other upper in other lengths or calibers for around $200 each. Or to stay low cost go with complete upper at $129 + foxtrot Mike at $439. Then add $50 jmac customs folding stock clone.

Here's that stock on a brn-180 pistol (scope just there for accuracy testing it doesn't live on that gun as it's way too big):
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A laundry list of bear creek arsenal uppers available. 22lr, and 22 mag not shown.
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the info goes a long way thank you

 

[ilikegunspdx]

the info goes a long way thank you

Just an example of how inexpensive things are right now: .223 wylde bca 18" ss heavy fluted dual charging upper ($189 shipped) plus psa complete lower ($149 shipped with $10 of that donated to GOA), plus $10 (on sale) Monstrum tactical bipod grip = $348 total cost (ignore scope). Note that the stock in pic was swapped out with another one, lower came with just the basic stock in this case, but u can still find MOE stock/grip lowers at psa for either $129 or $139 (can't recall which) on sale. Note that any of these bca uppers are going to be heavy compared to many of the more expensive uppers so if lightness is a primary goal they wouldn't be ideal for that. This was a couple months ago so current prices may be slightly different...just an example FYI.

 

[Ura-Ki]

We love our SU-16's we both have the "Cali" spec non folders that we converted to folders via a 3-D printer and a few days print time! Bonus was the ability to use the twin mag holder idea WITH a folding stock!
Before you ask, the reason for the "Cali" Spec rifles was the iron sights, the Cali version puts the front sight on the gas block and not that big funky snaggy barrel mounted abomination!

 

[3MTA3]

Just an example of how inexpensive things are right now: .223 wylde bca 18" ss heavy fluted dual charging upper ($189 shipped) plus psa complete lower ($149 shipped with $10 of that donated to GOA), plus $10 (on sale) Monstrum tactical bipod grip = $348 total cost (ignore scope). Note that the stock in pic was swapped out with another one, lower came with just the basic stock in this case, but u can still find MOE stock/grip lowers at psa for either $129 or $139 (can't recall which) on sale. Note that any of these bca uppers are going to be heavy compared to many of the more expensive uppers so if lightness is a primary goal they wouldn't be ideal for that. This was a couple months ago so current prices may be slightly different...just an example FYI.

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That modular versatility is why the AR is such a popular platform and what caused me to leave other platforms like the Mini-14 behind.

One thing to caution someone considering a Mini-14 is that they are LOUD! Fire one before you buy one. It's the rifle I tried the hardest to love, but at the end of the day it's like that knockout girlfriend who was a whole lot of fun, but just not wife material. YMMV.

 

[yukster]

I recently got a Palmetto State Armory JAKL (AR-like but with AK-like long-stroke piston) and I've been very happy with it.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-jakl-13-7-rifle-length-5-56-1-7-nitride-moe-sl-ept-f5-stock-rifle-black.html

As others have said, the roller-delayed blowback Marcolamar CETME is solid option too. Atlantic seems to be out of them but the manufacturer has them:

CETME L - Black - GEN 2 - MarColMar Firearms

marcolmarfirearms.com

I've always wanted a Steyr Aug too, but alas, now the safe is full. PSA has been running a special on them recently for only $1500 (usually closer to $2k):

https://palmettostatearmory.com/steyr-arm-aug-a3-m1-223-rem-5-56-semi-automatic-ar-15-rifle-w-extended-rail-augm1blkext.html

However note that this is the model that uses proprietary Steyr mags. They make a version that uses AR-15 mags but they're not on sale currently.

A bit cheaper than all of these options would be to get a Galil, which is basically the Israeli version of the AK in 5.56:

JRA Gallant Rifle, 5.56 NATO, S/A, 18" BBL, W/ Bayonet Lug, Side Fold Stock, Compensator, Battle Worn Model, Wood Handguard, 30 Rd Mag, Rifle Case

Gallant Rifle by James River Armory 5.56 NATO Caliber - Semi-Auto With Side Fold Stocks, Assembled from Original Israeli Galil Parts Sets back to original turn in standards in a Semi-Auto version. Features a brand new U.S.-made billet steel receiver and new U.S.-made barrel. Note - A Bi-Pod Is...

www.classicfirearms.com

All great options! Collect them all!

 

[DunRanull]

M90 Zastava

6,000,000 Serbs couldn't be wrong!

 

[DunRanull]

That modular versatility is why the AR is such a popular platform and what caused me to leave other platforms like the Mini-14 behind.

One thing to caution someone considering a Mini-14 is that they are LOUD! Fire one before you buy one. It's the rifle I tried the hardest to love, but at the end of the day it's like that knockout girlfriend who was a whole lot of fun, but just not wife material. YMMV.

I started my 5.56 interest with a "76" model mini... put a flash suppressor on it and it wasn't too bad... had 5 of the various models before I changed over to a slab-side AR... Like the Colt/Stoner design much better for various reasons including parts availability, ergos, modularity, and ability to work on them myself (to a degree). Stainless Mini's were liked in Rhodesia due to rust resistance.

 

[DunRanull]

Looking into the new PSA AK-5.56, been wanting something like this for years. May be divesting some ARs soon... {wife rolls her eyes}

 

[ditchtiger]

 

[NeSeR13]

FN SCAR 16. If I had to bug out and take one rifle, this would be my choice.

 

[Juniper9mm]

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'If you have the means I highly recommend them'. I had a Curtis Higgins conversion that was beautiful. Probably the only rifle I still miss not having apart from my first rifle at 16, a Marlin 783.

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