Oregon The Oregonian hosting gun control discussion TONIGHT July 11

[SlimPickins]

Where's the pro gun questions?

 

[SlimPickins]

"Is there a question in there?"

 

[Jim Colvill]

I can't smoke in the park, I can't smoke in my car, I can't smoke in my apartment, I can't smoke on the street. Eliminate where you can use something and you effectively ban it.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

idiots.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

if IP43 ever goes thru in the future im gonna open carry my chainsaw 20" bar full skip round file chisel chain in downtown portland.

 

[SlimPickins]

Priest: I like using kids.

 

[MilitantBEEMER]

Not able to watch... not sure I mind.

 

[SlimPickins]

Not able to watch... not sure I mind.

It's....something.

 

[SlimPickins]

I'm appalled as someone that respects facts, and data to back up arguments, but boy are claims being thrown around followed by, "I don't know," or, "I can't recall right now." That is now how you debate a claim, that's how you look like a fool.

 

[Sporting Systems]

Well done sir.

 

[SlimPickins]

"When we blame an object for a cultural problem, we have a problem." Well, said!

 

[Kruel J]

Dominic did a great job. I started laughing when the guy in the back said "we have passed laws that prevent cancer from cigarettes and people from getting killed by drunk drivers. PREVENT!?!?!?

Gotta be kidding me!

 

[ItsLunchBOX]

I thought Dominic did a real good job.

 

[tiggers97]

Wow, this lady is a plant. Waterworks, and everything...

I see the temptation to call her out on her outburst. She is acting out of fear and desperation. And when a gun-control advocate comes along with 'common sense' solutions? These types sink their teeth into it. It's something, so we have to do it. No matter what. It's something to soothe their fear.
Edit: these are the types the Rev Knutson and Ceasefire (Penny showed up in the comments near the end, FYI) prey on.

But truth be told, we need to pause and 'study' why she is acting the way she is. How to talk to her, and disarm her fear. A lot of people are in various stages of her state of mind, and we need to educate them on how not to be afraid.

 

[tiggers97]

I thought Dominic did a real good job.

Yes. cudos to him. Would have been nice to see a balanced 2vs2, though.

 

[ItsLunchBOX]

Yes. cudos to him. Would have been nice to see a balanced 2vs2, though.

Agreed.

 

[tiggers97]

Dominic did a great job. I started laughing when the guy in the back said "we have passed laws that prevent cancer from cigarettes and people from getting killed by drunk drivers. PREVENT!?!?!?

Gotta be kidding me!

More people die from DUI related deaths than gun homicides in Oregon. About 2-3 times more. Doesn't mean MADD didn't do a good job in reducing DUI deaths. But then again, MADD wasn't about making it harder for sober people to drive, or banning alcohol.

 

[Jim Colvill]

As has been pointed out on more than one occasion the gun death rate has been steadily dropping over the last 20 years, and that's according to FBI data. The CDC puts suicide nationally at 60% of gun deaths. By the Oregonian's own reporting the number of gun deaths by suicide in Oregon is at 80% of total gun deaths with the highest percentage in rural counties. Homicides are higher in areas of high poverty and high concentration of people. "Common sense" would indicate a focus on mental health and poverty as opposed to banning guns. But that is not on the docket of either party.

 

[Kristina]

Well, that was... interesting. Dominic did a fine job. I was really impressed with the woman moderating. She had some good questions, unfortunately some of the best ones weren't answered very productively. There we definitely some pro-gun rights folks there besides myself and my SO. I raised my hand twice to ask a question but no dice. It was pretty frustrating with Father-talks-a-lot and all the Moms Damand Action outbursts but I'm glad I went.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

More people die from DUI related deaths than gun homicides in Oregon. About 2-3 times more. Doesn't mean MADD didn't do a good job in reducing DUI deaths. But then again, MADD wasn't about making it harder for sober people to drive, or banning alcohol.

its illegal to drink and drive above .08 BAC. laws only affect law abiding.

murders illegal too.

people still drink and drive.

i say no laws and just let darwinism prevail.