Socialist Rifle Association...

[Boboclown]

Ok I'll throw you a bone here the AK WAS DESIGNED AROUND OPEN SIGHTS or was made to have open sights with s adjustable rear sight out to 900 meters if I remember right but really design to be used in 600 meters or less but if you want to mount a real site on one you need one of these and tools like he said drill and tap the mount and if you really want range a new barrel but it's a AK THEY ARE NOT KNOWN FOR LONGER SHOTS BUT FOR RELIABLE View attachment 428779 View attachment 428780 View attachment 428781 View attachment 428782

For a peep sight I did different... For optics I just used a POSP 4x24 with 400m Simonov reticle. My only knock against it is the 1m size rangefinder, would prefer the 1.7m size (this is for them two legged critters), but one can still use the windage marks to range the target.

 

[slimmer13]

"They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands."

 

[Boboclown]

EPS yeah some aka are sighted out to 1000 which is kind of ridiculous and others up to 800 just depends on the model.

Volley fire, its a concept that died out a long time ago but the Russkies were stubborn and kept with it. I just use the 1000m rear sight leaf cause an AK don't feel right without it. Like its soul is missing or something.

 

[EPS]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just feel that on the range and in this forum that kind of stuff should be left elsewhere.

EPS yeah some aka are sighted out to 1000 which is kind of ridiculous and others up to 800 just depends on the model. I'm probably going to add an AR to my safe soon but the those Lee armory deals are giving me pause.

I only own 1 AK 47 and it is what it is a good reliable gun I don't think I would be using it for 1000 meter shots but 100 to 300 I would take that shot but that's just my gun I have other guns for the long shot

 

[Hun Shooter]

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just feel that on the range and in this forum that kind of stuff should be left elsewhere.

EPS yeah some aka are sighted out to 1000 which is kind of ridiculous and others up to 800 just depends on the model. I'm probably going to add an AR to my safe soon but the those Lee armory deals are giving me pause.

this country was founded on my "opinion" LOL

 

[EPS]

For a peep sight I did different... For optics I just used a POSP 4x24 with 400m Simonov reticle. My only knock against it is the 1m size rangefinder, would prefer the 1.7m size (this is for them two legged critters), but one can still use the windage marks to range the target.

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Boboclown your different you my friend are into certain guns and gear that not everyone is lol you take the time to prepare you guns with good gear

 

[EPS]

How long did it take you to find a scope for that one rifle

 

[Boboclown]

Boboclown your different you my friend are into certain guns and gear that not everyone is lol you take the time to prepare you guns with good gear

I'm bored and came across this project someone else did with it. There was also one where a person put a M16 rear sight on their AK, but that requires TIG welding (screws are an option but not worth the effort). My second AK will be what gets that peep sight though, my wasr is my go to for now so its kept simple.

How long did it take you to find a scope for that one rifle

Not long at all. Kalinka optics and eastwave optics both sell optics for AKs, but eastwave is the one that has a 400m simonov reticle. Keep in mind eastwave drop ships, so your sight will be coming straight from Belarus and that takes a long time. I got lucky and found mine off of Ebay. But despite the low cost, its easily the same quality as a scope twice its cost, if not more.

 

[EPS]

Oh I'm sorry I thought it was you last year that was looking for a scope for one of your guns I think it was the AUG any way don't you have a SCAR also

 

[Boboclown]

Oh for the AUG? It took me a week to find it for $700, came with the original box and unfilled warranty card, as well as the ADM mount and the original. But I had to take the paint off (took me a few hours while I was at the antigun apartment). It isn't the ACOG I wanted, but who the hell is going to pass up a TA33 for $700?

But as for the SCAR, no. Never had one. Had an opportunity to get one for 2 grand, but it didn't feel right to me. Went with a piston operated .308 AR instead, but that got traded for a Galil Ace, which got sold so I could get a FAL. Now all the rifles I have feel like they have a soul.

 

[Oswald]

Bobo does that hold zero well?

 

[Boboclown]

The rear sight? Yeah it holds zero, but I used shims on it so I went back to the original sight for now. I'm going to keep it for a second AK, and build it up with epoxy instead.

 

[3MTA3]

Wouldn't all these Socialist Rifle Association types be waiting on Bernie Sanders to give them the rifles and ammo via redistribution of wealth from people who have jobs and pay taxes? How in the world could we expect them to work and then pay for it with their own money

 

[EPS]

Oh for the AUG? It took me a week to find it for $700, came with the original box and unfilled warranty card, as well as the ADM mount and the original. But I had to take the paint off (took me a few hours while I was at the antigun apartment). It isn't the ACOG I wanted, but who the hell is going to pass up a TA33 for $700?

But as for the SCAR, no. Never had one. Had an opportunity to get one for 2 grand, but it didn't feel right to me. Went with a piston operated .308 AR instead, but that got traded for a Galil Ace, which got sold so I could get a FAL. Now all the rifles I have feel like they have a soul.

Yep I remember when you were looking for the scope for the AUG I don't know this could start another agument but why git rid of the GALIL to get a FAL I know STOMPER is going to be pissed off about this question but they are kinda the same aren't they

 

[Boboclown]

Yep I remember when you were looking for the scope for the AUG I don't know this could start another agument but why git rid of the GALIL to get a FAL I know STOMPER is going to be pissed off about this question but they are kinda the same aren't they

No. The Galil is based off the Valmet design, the FAL is its own design. As for why, the Galil Ace ain't got no soul. An original Galil with bipod got soul, the Ace? All the polymer and rails killed its soul before it could even be born.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I think there is a difference of what people think of as 'socailism'. Sure, there are the failed classical examples you guys keep bringing up, but what about the majority of Europe? Pretty much every country there has some form of a social government, and aside from dumb gun laws, people generally lead equally nice of lives as us. I mean, who still associates Catholicism with the inquisition? Or Christianity with the crusades? Ideologies evolve, and to cherry pick examples that fit one particular narrative is pretty cheap.

to the SRA folks, or I guess Oswald, as he is the only local, if you see my big blue and white van out there, stop and say hi, I was at the first spot last time, and didn't really know what you all were about. Maybe I'll come check you out and share some steel next time.

Well, the thing is, the crusades were almost a thousand years ago, and people still bring them up and with reason. As a Christian myself, it is something that gets thrown in my face, even though the crusades began as a response to Islamic raiders almost a thousand years ago, mind you. Socialism is still killing people. The blood is still wet. The starvation is still occurring in Venezuela. The crusades and the inquisition killed an absolute pittance compared to the examples I cited. 100s of millions dead in the last century, and still the death toll to your ideology rises. That isn't cherry picking, it is looking at some of the largest socialist countries in human history, and the ideology with more blood on its hands than any other in human history.

 

[Oswald]

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Well, the thing is, the crusades were almost a thousand years ago, and people still bring them up and with reason. As a Christian myself, it is something that gets thrown in my face, even though the crusades began as a response to Islamic raiders almost a thousand years ago, mind you. Socialism is still killing people. The blood is still wet. The starvation is still occurring in Venezuela. The crusades and the inquisition killed an absolute pittance compared to the examples I cited. 100s of millions dead in the last century, and still the death toll to your ideology rises. That isn't cherry picking, it is looking at some of the largest socialist countries in human history, and the ideology with more blood on its hands than any other in human history.

Venezuela's economy relied far to heavily on a single commodity in the global market place. Not even capitalism would have been able to save it from a massive economic depression from the changing oil market. Not to mention much of Venezuela's economy was market driven. Their private sector (which still existed following the pink revolution) actually contributed to a greater percentage of their GDP than America's private sector contributes to their own. Just food for thought.

You're also the umpteenth person to bring up the 10 million. At the risk of starting another argunent, consider this number comes from the Black Book of Communism. This book actually factored in Nazis killed by the red army during WWII. The books own author has since come out saying the number 100 million is unjustifiable.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

You're also the umpteenth person to bring up the 100th million. At the risk of starting another argunent, consider this number comes from the Black Book of Communism. This book actually factored in Nazis killed by the red army during WWII. The books own author has since come out saying the number 100 million is unjustifiable.

45 million in mao's great leap forward
25 million under Stalin alone
6 million Jews under the National Socialists.
3 million under Pol Pot

and that is just a few regimes. That is 79 million there using google. That is a hell of a lot more than any other ideology I can come up with. Some put Mao's great leap forward at MUCH higher numbers. (Some over 100 million alone there)

This is without the allied death tolls in WW2 and Vietnam which could be attributed to communism as well, but I am leaving wars out of it.

 

[Oswald]

Nazis aren't socialists. They operate an extreme meritocracy which is completely antithetical to the ideas of literally any former Communist country or classical socialist thinker. Not to mention several economic differences. Hitler specifically used the term socialist to help ride a wave of populism that was brewing in the country at the time but they were socialists in name only. Again for the thousandth time I don't care to talk about this here. I thought we were finally moving on, even learned something new about AKs and now we're back here.

 

[Boboclown]

Or Christianity with the crusades?

I didn't notice this earlier but I feel obligated to correct this. The crusades happened before protestantism, so Catholicism would be associated with the inquisition and the crusades (if you want to strawman the crusades).

However, the crusades were never about religion, it was all about land. The Turks were invading the Byzantine Empire, and the emperor asked for help from the other European kingdoms. This lead to the crusades, and while they may have used religion as an excuse, it was nothing but wars about territory.