In light of todays actions of a lunatic at Clackamas town center I was reflecting on what I would do in that situation. I also made an observation of what others have said they would do in such a tragic event. Many of the sheep dogs (ccw/oc owners) say that if they were there things would have been much different. Now, some of these people I know that say this are well trained and have combat experience. To them I say go for it and do what must be done. However, I've heard alot of others who don't have that training say the same thing and that is the wrong attitude to have. Way to many things can go wrong and make a bad situation worse if you don't know what you are doing. If you find yourself in a situation like that listen to your instincts because anyone well trained will tell you that your instincts will keep you alive. Also,anyone who's been through a CCW class knows that your side arm is a last resort so going off to hunt down a shooter is just plain foolish if you have an opportunity to escape or hide. If you somehow by chance get the drop on a shooter then a couple things should come to mind. Do I have a clear shot, do they have a partner,are they wearing body armor and so on. A Thunder Ranch student was in the mall at the time of the shooting.What did he do? HE HID! Not because he was a coward but its what he was trained to do. His advice was get to cover,get out pf sight and flee. We would all be better off if their were more sheep dogs in the world and I am %100 supportive of CCW/OC but I get very frustrated when I hear "cowboy" remarks from people who arn't qualified to protect the lives of others. So what would have I done in that situation? Flee! If I was unable to flee I would get to cover and pray I didnt come face to face with a gunman. If I somehow got the drop on the bad guy I would take the shot ONLY if I had no other options. One last thing, once you pull that side arm be prepared for what happens next. Another sheep dog or LEO could mistake you for a bad guy in the chaos and it could end badly for you. Even if you stop the bad guy. Sorry for the rant, these are just my thoughts.