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100% agree with this. Firearm prices are generally cheap right now, get what you can, while you can.Buy what you want ASAP.
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100% agree with this. Firearm prices are generally cheap right now, get what you can, while you can.Buy what you want ASAP.
I believe elimination of no response releases will be immediate.All this BS wouldn't go into effect until Jan 2024 or…?
Sorry, I meant the bills.I believe elimination of no response releases will be immediate.
All of the bills I have seen have some aspects that will go into effect immediately.Sorry, I meant the bills.
All this BS wouldn't go into effect until Jan 2024 or…?
Immediately with the emergency clause.Sorry, I meant the bills.
Maybe it's time to start playing for the other team, minus the stealing, of course.The currently adapted version of HB 2005 does not contain the 3 day hold.
There are some very convoluted implementation dates for different sections of 2005. TBH, will need to produce a flow chart to to show what goes into effect, and when for the different sections. For much of the serialization portion on existing frames and receivers, including AR platform upper receivers, it will take effect July 1 of 2024. It's not clear how it works for new sales or importation, but will dig deeper into those sections.
I'm still working on how to interpret the possession of 80% frames and receivers already owned. I believe thy will be illegal to import, buy or sell immediately but not sure what happens to those you already own.
With a proper flow chart, all actions and circumstances will result in a F* You to law abiding citizens. Criminals will simply continue as they have always done and steal, possess, and use whatever they want.
Hb2005a makes ghost guns a felonyThis legislation will do nothing to block access to guns. Everything can be made, at home, by the average gang banger. A motivated 12 year old can make a machine gun-complete with barrel and bolt. The knowledge is in the wild now.
I don't know that I agree that the prices are "cheap". I've been rather taken aback by the retail prices and the prices people ask for their guns here compared to what I paid just a few years ago or even more recently. I understand that inflation has hit everything, but when I see a gun MSRP (or asking price) of 50-100% more than what I paid for it, I can't think it is all due to inflation.100% agree with this. Firearm prices are generally cheap right now, get what you can, while you can.
I agree. Many new firearms are $1500+ now. It's the new norm.I don't know that I agree that the prices are "cheap".
Sounds like Biden's inflation policy has kicked in, in the gun world…I agree. Many new firearms are $1500+ now. It's the new norm.
Trump years were crazy low prices. Given all the threats and inflation we have been facing, we should be seeing Obama Era+ pricing but we are a long ways from that at least for ARs and Tupperware guns.I don't know that I agree that the prices are "cheap". I've been rather taken aback by the retail prices and the prices people ask for their guns here compared to what I paid just a few years ago or even more recently. I understand that inflation has hit everything, but when I see a gun MSRP (or asking price) of 50-100% more than what I paid for it, I can't think it is all due to inflation.
OTOH - I see a few guns going for about the same price; e.g., I noticed Five Sevens (not the latest mod) going for about the same $ amount as 5 years ago - yes, I am sure this is due to the new mod, so they are clearing out the stock. I've noticed some others - but many seem higher priced.
Overall it makes me very glad I got what I wanted/needed when I could (not that I don't want more, I just don't really need more - so I am very choosy about what I buy if anything - IIRC I've bought only one gun in the past twelve months?).
$6 trillion in subsidies and giveaways in two years.Sounds like Biden's inflation policy has kicked in, in the gun world…
So, my 1916 stevens pump and 1940s/early 50s mossberg bolt action .22 are now/will be ghost guns.Hb2005a makes ghost guns a felony
No, it only applies to post 1968 when the gun control act required serialization. There is a stipulation in there for it.So, my 1916 stevens pump and 1940s/early 50s mossberg bolt action .22 are now/will be ghost guns.
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Okay, and sorry if this is a stupid question, but the 12 gauge and 22 bolt action rifle I inherited from my grandfather have no serial numbers or identifying markings because they're from the 1950's IIRC - how am I supposed to prove their age if someone were to ask about it?No, it only applies to post 1968 when the gun control act required serialization. There is a stipulation in there for it.
yeah, you are right ... when I asked the sponsors of the bill about this they never replied ... There are obvious ways such as when the model was known to be produced. If it is clearly in that range of dates then you are probably just fine.Okay, and sorry if this is a stupid question, but the 12 gauge and 22 bolt action rifle I inherited from my grandfather have no serial numbers or identifying markings because they're from the 1950's IIRC - how am I supposed to prove their age if someone were to ask about it?
Like the "affirmative defense" on the proposed backdated mag ban, it seems pretty difficult and doesn't pass the smell test.