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I would agree with you on that ! That was totally unnecessary and very unprofessional as well. Yeah if the contact has nothing to do with a firearm then I would say nothing. Sometimes a few make it bad for others !
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I get pulled over atleast once a month. I work swing shift, something about driving at 1am that screams pull me over. I always carry and I never hand over my CHL. Only once in five years have I had a cop walked back and asked "where is it?" Which I replyed with wheres what? I obay the laws the best I can. I have nothing to hide, but I also know my rights. I smile, keep the windows down, my hands on the wheel and the doom lights on.
Hands up... or just on steering wheel.Then I moved to WA, got a CPL, got pulled over right away, and when asked about a gun said "yes", having nothing to hide. I ended up with my hands up for 30 minutes at gunpoint. my parting comment was "If I was going to do something nefarious I would not have told you I had a gun genius"...
yup that's my policy... I travel with guns often to go shooting, and for me, its what I can do so that the officer is more at ease during the stop. Oh most of my cars have had or still have tint on the windows, so its a black box of surprises to them.I smile, keep the windows down, my hands on the wheel and the doom lights on.
but how many are those from CHL members??? Personally ( im not an officer but) I think it should alert the officer that I have, or could have a gun. Also should let him know that I have been checked out, and reasonably a good person.Lately there has been an unusual number of LEO deaths throughout the country, and there might be an over concern over a safe environment for both the officer and the person being pulled over.
I used to believe this. But after having been harassed solely for driving the wrong type of car or for walking in groups of more than two people, I started to realize that it's more of a pipe dream.
My parents used to believe I was only giving them half of the story when I'd tell them about it later, until they were witness to a few examples.
A good one when I was driving back from a funeral in Medford. I was caravaning with my parents. Me in my lowered turbo import with racing stripes, driving behind them in their mini van.
We pulled into roseburg for gas at the chevron and to use the restrooms. While I was parked next to my parents van waiting for them to finish with the latter, a police car pulled behind me and turned on his lights. He walked up to my window and told me to get out of the car. In the middle of his little tirade about how I had no business driving through their town, I realized my parents were watching in disbelief.
Apparently the officers saw me pull off of I5 and followed me to the gas station. I was told to finish my business and get back onto I5. They then drove out of the parking lot, to the top of the overpass, parked, and watched until my family left the town.
There's no more to the story. No peeling out, speeding, revving my engine, previous problems, loud music, dirty looks, loitering, etc etc etc... I was harassed and essentially kicked out of town for driving a car the police officer didnt like. I wasnt happy about what happened, but I wasn't totally shocked either. My parents on the other hand didnt quite know how to handle or process the situation. Everything they witnessed went against their preconceived notions.
Growing up, we had always stopped in Roseburg when traveling between Eugene and Medford. Either for gas, or to eat at tomtom. That all stopped after that day. Now it's nothing but landmark that we look at as we go past and say "remember when".
I rotate between my truck, jeep and bike along with my route home. I have the business cards of most of the cops in my area. but I still have three countys of sheriffs and the state police to deal with.Seems the local constables might get to know your ride at some point.
This all boils down to " hey there is a white guy with a good looking rig, He'll pay a ticket"
Yeah I said it, You know your all thinking
this last part is what can really be a PIA... citizens getting the day interrupted and housed in JAIL until they can find out the truth.... i think thats why most just give in to the search, which tends to open the door to other issues3. asked if he had ever seen an FFL - he hadn't. I told them that I suspected that if I had any class III items and was searched even with the FFL that I might end up spending the weekend in jail because officers didn't know what the FFL allows and wouldn't be able to verify that information until the ATF was open on Monday morning. after about an hour I was finally let go - much better than spending the weekend in jail and spending days or months plus atty fees recovering my property.
Something a driver is doing triggers a stop