Poll: Prohibited Carry on Employer Property

[Joe13]

I'd wait and feel out the company... have they ever done a search of a car?

Having it on you is a big risk to take if it means your job but I'd probably quit if an employer wanted to search my vehicle..

Have worked in places like that and a lot of us carried gun in company rigs because we were out in the boondocks in the middle of the night and our safety almost required it with little chance of the boss knowing (or caring).

Job I just applied for has the same policy I was warned so I won't be carrying onto the property and if it were in the car it would be in a safe - hypothetically.

Not for a while though, Is want to get the feel for the place and how stringent they were about it.

 

[Hawaiian]

It is a personal decision. Are you willing to risk losing your job over it?

 

[11Charlie]

I think it really depends on the place of business. I would personally encourage anyone to do so but then its my business. If an employer told me I couldn't on the job I would understand and follow there rules.

As for my truck I would keep it locked in a safe. If the SHF I will get home to my family and loved ones.

 

[Martini_Up]

Concealed.... means.... concealed.

/thread

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Their policy is for liability purposes. So it will NOT save your life. Unless federal or state law pohobits it, concealed means concealed. Its none of their business what tool you carry for self preservation.

 

[3MTA3]

My Constitutional rights do not end when I enter my employer's property. That said I keep my vehicle gun out of sight and secured. Also, there are secure work sites I have gone to where there is a valid reason to not bring a firearm and I respect that.

 

[Joe13]

Unfortunately, WA and OR are At Will states and do not need a reason to terminate your employment.

I want to say Yea, go for it but are you 100% sure you can keep it concealed for 160 hours every month, day in and day out??

I'd be more for keeping a knife and heavy block of glass on my desk and keeping the gun in the vehicle if you need to bring it.

Personal choice.

Risk of loss of income vs Risk of loss of life.

What's more likely to happen in your place of employment???

 

[jp1985]

Keep it concealed, and never mention it.

If there was an incident at your work that involved an active shooter are you really going to be able to leave the building, go to your car and get it out in time?

My work has a strict no firearms policy and I would rather be safe than dead.

I also agree with the above poster who said a car search is unacceptable without a warrant and i really doubt they would go that far. Instead as Joe stated OR/WA are at will states unless, so they would probably just fire you if they were to find out.

Just offering my opinion ultimately its your decision.

 

[mjbskwim]

IF you have signed a contract with this no firearm policy then you would have to look for a search clause. Cause if it's in the contract they can search your car ON THEIR PROPERTY. Otherwise they'll just escort you off the property anyway.(with your final check)
For me it would depend on the neighborhood ( I know,I know bad things can happen anywhere )and how much I liked/needed the job.
I've had my permit since the 80's and have had a gun in my car about 75% of the time. Places like Boeing had policies but I didn't much care. They leave the contractors alone except for piss tests.
We were building in McCord AFB.They said no guns so I didn't carry there. Haha and that's a terrible neighborhood out side the gates.
How about stops before or after work?
All in all it depends on if it's a great job and you feel safe to,from and at work .

 

[Jnarowe]

I would never leave my EDC in the car. That is super unsafe for you and other people should your car be broken into. I simply would ignore the employer's rule, or not carry at all. Unfortunately with all the workplace violence we are seeing reported, I would rather carry concealed and deal with the consequences, which I have.

 

[Michael Js]

I had checked when I started my new job in WA in July '15 and didn't see anything about carrying, so, I thought I was legally carrying there for over 13 months. Then, we have this town hall meeting where they try to do an active shooting training - with slides, not acting - and there, for the 1st time, i see it's against Employee Workplace Violence Co. policy to carry on your person, or in your car while on their lot. Really?

That was news to me...No, no one knew anything in over 13 months, and no one still does...I thought that was sad when I heard that, however, although we have a guard station and some people walking around, No one is armed or even able to assist in time of need. And, they "tightened" down their access because we've had multiple instances of people who were not supposed to be in the building getting in. Go figure...

So, yes, i carry - in my own defense...

YMMV...
Peace,
Michael J.

 

[wired]

I would never leave my EDC in the car. That is super unsafe for you and other people should your car be broken into. I simply would ignore the employer's rule, or not carry at all. Unfortunately with all the workplace violence we are seeing reported, I would rather carry concealed and deal with the consequences, which I have.

I occasionally carry my car gun. The gun that lives in my car.

 

[STUKA]

I carry in my front pocket at work.Always.
Very clearly posted signs prohibiting it.
My company sucks,and has lots of disgruntled ex employees.
There is an automatic gate at the front,but 1/2 the time it's wide open,or all you have to do is push a button and it opens.This is right on Vancouver Ave,BTW.
If they were to start paying to have armed security to patrol the complex-Well,I'd still carry,because I can only count on ME to defend my life.
Yes,I am willing to lose my job over it.
Hell,I'd welcome it,quite honestly!

 

[I594 Sucks]

New job specifically says it forbids firearms on company property, and as I understand it - in my vehicle still counts as on company property. The company maintains a private parking lot, I happen to be about 10 feet from the door that is near my car, my car is directly outside that door.

Do you carry in your vehicle even though it's prohibited - or do you opt not to carry?

I chose to carry, but I won't say where. My employer has strict rules against this, but my life is more important to me than my job.
However, should a shooter come to my place of work and open fire on my co-workers, I will not play the "hero", but will likely be hiding and preparing to use deadly force, to protect myself. This position is controversial and I would have a difficult time living with my decision, but my employer (and some of those same co-workers) has opted to give me no choice in the matter.

 

[DONOTBUGME]

My company is HQ is in CA, so we have all the strict no gun anywhere on the premises policies. I carry to work everyday, its concealed. I then lock it up in a drawer and keep the only key in my pocket. I do not have it on me when I am walking around inside the office but anytime I leave It goes back on. I am prepared to be fired if it is seen, but if it is seen there had to be a damn good reason. I agree with 1594 Sucks, I will not be clearing rooms to save others. My family is why I carry so I can make it home to them. I work with all adults, they have the option to defend themselves.

 

[HB of CJ]

Private Property. The owner makes the rules. Obey or not. There must be some point where a law abiding citizen must decide whether or not to abide by unjust private property owner demands. You can quit.

Tell the boss why before you vote with your feet. But ... losing a good job is not an option with nearly all of us. Dream about deep concealed carry? TELL NOBODY? This is a personal decision. Good luck.

 

[WaGuy52]

It is a personal decision. Are you willing to risk losing your job over it?

That's really the call. In my case, I've got some certs I would lose and not only lose my job but the ability to work in my field. However, public parking is not company parking, and there's no reason not to walk a couple blocks.

 

[DONOTBUGME]

Private Property. The owner makes the rules. Obey or not. There must be some point where a law abiding citizen must decide whether or not to abide by unjust private property owner demands. You can quit.

Tell the boss why before you vote with your feet. But ... losing a good job is not an option with nearly all of us. Dream about deep concealed carry? TELL NOBODY? This is a personal decision. Good luck.

Rules vs laws....

 

[aikikenjitsu]

New job specifically says it forbids firearms on company property, and as I understand it - in my vehicle still counts as on company property. The company maintains a private parking lot, I happen to be about 10 feet from the door that is near my car, my car is directly outside that door.

Do you carry in your vehicle even though it's prohibited - or do you opt not to carry?

You're stupid if you don't carry a gun within reach. Killers love rules like that and the "Gun Free Zones." It's scary to think that so called smart people are so stupid. Once killers know you're not carrying in a certain place, here they come. Companies such as Target and such have Gun Free Zone signs and I ignore it. I'm going to protect myself and my wife before anything else, nothing else matters. If I was in your position, I would purchase a NAA .22 magnum revolver and carry it in a ankle holster. I would fix the holster so it's high up.
Is your life worth a paycheck?
Sifu

 

[JedB]

What is the penalty if you are found to be carrying on company property?

Did your company/hr department/manager/company handbook state?

My company's handbook says weapon, then goes on to list gun, knife and a few other things and includes the phrase "this list is by no means exhaustive."

So, it's a "no-no" for me, but there's no defined penalty.