Private Transfer on Indian Reservation?

[Redcap]

Cops want to catch real BGs, not misdemeanants.

No they don't.

 

[KTM530XCW]

You're thinking ATF. They're the ones who don't care about gg vs bg

 

[Deebow]

No they don't.

Yes, because being the detective running a case on a guy who may or may not have sold a gun without a background check where the guy is going to get a lawyer to plea bargain it to an even lower misdemeanor (if the DA even bothers to prosecute) is much more career enhancing and contributes to public safety much more than being the detective who puts a murderer in prison for life.

 

[2ANewbie]

Does having a CC for tribal land make for any more possibilities on this topic?
I remember seeing this information at the OFF web site from some time back:
http://www.oregonfirearms.org/chl-central/grand-ronde-tribe-concealed-handgun-license

 

[Mark W.]

What kills me is I can't transfer to my son in law. It has to take another step to my step daughter first.

and if you follow this stupid chain

I hand my deer rifle to my Step Daughter, Who then hands it to her Husband, who then hands it to his Step dad (who I have never met) Who then hands it to his second wife, who then hands it to her son (from a different marraige) who hands it to his wife who hands it to her First cousin who hands it to their domestic partner. Who wouldn't know me from some Moron in the State Legislature or any other brain dead dork.

BUT I CAN'T DIRECTLY LOAN THE SAME FRECKIN RIFLE TO THE FATHER OF MY GRAND DAUGHTERS????

 

[Redcap]

What kills me is I can't transfer to my son in law. It has to take another step to my step daughter first.

and if you follow this stupid chain

I hand my deer rifle to my Step Daughter, Who then hands it to her Husband, who then hands it to his Step dad (who I have never met) Who then hands it to his second wife, who then hands it to her son (from a different marraige) who hands it to his wife who hands it to her First cousin who hands it to their domestic partner. Who wouldn't know me from some Moron in the State Legislature or any other brain dead dork.

BUT I CAN'T DIRECTLY LOAN THE SAME FRECKIN RIFLE TO THE FATHER OF MY GRAND DAUGHTERS????

Idiocy. Simply disregard 594.

 

[Mark W.]

I do every day since I live in Oregon. The PITA is SB941 which is different then your 594.

 

[Sabertooth]

What concerns me isn't the actual hand off. It's explaining how it got out of your possession 10 years down the road when its found at a crime scene.

Oregon does not register firearms. And as far as I know Oregon does not track firearms transfers. Its only a back ground check, which is not recorded as far as I know. If you purchase from a FFL dealer the sale is recorded for the ATF. But not the back ground check.

 

[KTM530XCW]

In Washington, if you get pulled over the cops computer tells them every handgun you've ever purchased in the state.

Fact.

 

[KTM530XCW]

Even though they can't legally keep a "registration", they absolutely keep "records".

 

[Redcap]

In Washington, if you get pulled over the cops computer tells them every handgun you've ever purchased in the state.

Fact.

Only if you are doing it wrong.

 

[Unka-Boo]

Oregon does not register firearms. And as far as I know Oregon does not track firearms transfers. Its only a back ground check, which is not recorded as far as I know. If you purchase from a FFL dealer the sale is recorded for the ATF. But not the back ground check.

.....if that were true, OSP wouldn't ask for type and serial # on the BGC....sure, they SAY they don't keep records.....

 

[solv3nt]

.....if that were true, OSP wouldn't ask for type and serial # on the BGC....sure, they SAY they don't keep records.....

A copy of your form 4473 is also sent to your local pd by the next business day of the ffl transfer/sale.

 

[KTM530XCW]

http://smartgunlaws.org/maintaining-gun-sales-background-check-records-policy-summary/

This explains why vancouver pd has records of my handguns

 

[Page.k]

For the record the "Tribal Lands" need to be "Federal" for the most state and some federal laws not to apply. And each "Tribe" has it's own set of laws and treaties that come in to play. But please not just because the tribe has land given to it by the federal government don't out weigh any land(s) the state may have also given them. If I was going to go to "Tribal Lands" to trade a gun I know the one to go to and some that I'll pass on.

 

[PrDubi]

you can pump your own gas at Spirit mountain casino, they said being it is tribal land, it doesnt have to follow state law. In that sense, I think ftf should be legal.

 

[PrDubi]

my brothers Glock was stolen years ago. Guess how he got it back after he reported it stolen? They have records..... trust me... they do.

 

[solv3nt]

You can aquire long guns in ID through an ffl but fed law prohibits "obtaining " a firearm outside your state of residence without an ffl.

An ID ffl is a good option for long guns in my opinion if you are worried about back door registration in our increasingly un gun friendly states.

I'm not saying to purchase a gun from an out of state individual. However, what I am saying, is that if two Oregon residents, or two Washington residents were to meet, say, in Idaho where Oregon and Washington law doesn't apply, you're good to go.

For example, let's say that Oregon or Washington bans the sale of 30 round magazines, Idaho does not ban them. If you were to travel across the border, you could legally purchase 30 round magazines.

 

[slimmer13]

I understand but USC 18 922 says "purchase or otherwise obtain" which you are still doing

 

[etrain16]

I understand but USC 18 922 says "purchase or otherwise obtain" which you are still doing

But what about the interstate provisions of the USC being struck down in court as 'unconstitutional' earlier this year? So far, no one has challenged that ruling (at least that I'm aware of), so, technically, it should be legal to do a purchase across state lines.

I'm not going to test that myself, of course, but it's supposedly the case now. YMMV