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private sale of a shotgun to a minor?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by shibbershabber, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. shibbershabber

    shibbershabber Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    so ive got this guy emailing me about a shotgun I'm selling...

    but he's 17 & says that it's perfectly legal in WA.

    I've looked around online and didn't find anything. I called the sheriffs office and they didn't know ave directed me to the NRA website.

    what do you guys think? Can you point me to something showing the legality of this sale?
     
  2. Unka-Boo

    Unka-Boo Milwaukie Active Member

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    I would err on the side of caution...pretty sure you have to be 18 to buy a firearm, but can be given one as a gift as a minor.
     
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  3. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I'd offer to sell to his parents and they can give it to him. Me, personally, would not want to be the guy that sold a shotgun to some kid who shot up his school. And, I would not want my 17 year old owning a gun
     
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  4. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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  5. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Nope no way I'd go for that.
    18 for long guns and 21 for handguns.
    Tough cookies.

    Best of luck, I wouldn't even waste your time.
     
  6. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    Yep they wont even sell you ammo if you are under 18. Don't take the chance.
     
  7. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly,go read the laws again.Private sale of a handgun to a 18yo is perfectly legal by a private citizen not a ffl
     
  8. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Nope, he is his parents ward, they have to make those decisions
     
  9. 40calruler

    40calruler Lake Oswego Well-Known Member

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    I may be a jerk but I would hesitate to sell to even an 18 year old. It may be legal but I was dumb as a rock at that age and far from responsible. I prefer even with a long gun to sell to people over 21.
     
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  10. shibbershabber

    shibbershabber Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    where's the law?

    I'd really like to sell this thing, but would like reassurance that I won't become a felon.

    especially with the anti-private sale stuff coming up for a vote soon, I'm leery of people baiting sketchy private sales to get in the news
     
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  11. 40calruler

    40calruler Lake Oswego Well-Known Member

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    deadeye posted a link. Blitzkreig posted the law regarding parents. Bottom line is I would not sell to the kid if you have any concerns about legal issues. There will be some with a minor buying a shotgun from a stranger.

    Really selling to a kid makes the whole lot of us that do private sales look bad at a very bad time to do anything that is a stretch.
     
  12. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    No no, not the law. My personal requirements/standards.
    I didn't clairrify but it's what I meant. ;)
     
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  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Repeat note, the buyer is 17
     
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  14. 40calruler

    40calruler Lake Oswego Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that would be the last email I responded to when I read "I am 17 but it is ok". Do you want to believe a kid or a bunch of guys that make sure they play by the rules.
     
  15. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Q: Does a customer have to be a certain age to buy firearms or ammunition from a licensee?

    Yes. Under the GCA, long guns and long gun ammunition may be sold only to persons 18 years of age or older. Sales of handguns and ammunition for handguns are limited to persons 21 years of age and older. Although some State and local ordinances have lower age requirements, dealers are bound by the minimum age requirements established by the GCA. If State law or local ordinances establish a higher minimum age, the dealer must observe the higher age requirement.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1), 27 CFR 478.99(b)]

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    If an FFL can't sell to someone under 18, you probably can't either.
     
  16. happypuppy

    happypuppy N. Puget Sound Member

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    Sounds very similar to an email I got a couple weeks ago about a AR I was selling.

    Here is the text i received

    "Ok, my father and I are getting into hunting and would like to use this rifle for myself of course with my fathers permission. However, I am 17 years old but your post says you are private party and in WA state there are no age restrictions on rifle/ shotgun purchases through private party. Would you be comfortable with this sale?"


    I was very suspect. The AR is not in the list of great hunting guns

    I told him I would only sell it to his father.


    He responded with this

    " My dad said he wouldn't be able to make it today. I know that would be a problem for you right?"

    I replied with this

    So,I don't feel comfortable in this type of transaction

    That was the end of it.

    Curious is it not ?
     
  17. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    I was also under he impression .223 was not legal to hunt with (deer) in Washington.
     
  18. happypuppy

    happypuppy N. Puget Sound Member

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    I PM'ed the original poster with the persons email. It is the same email address.

    Be very, very wary ....:
     
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  19. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Not to say anything negative about you not wanting your son to own a gun... But why not? At 15 I was shooting in two different leagues, loading my own ammo and had half a dozen guns. I got my first rifle of my own at 12 years old. Not to say there is any "right" age but by 17 my oldest boy had several of his own guns, including an AR. There is no question he was old enough to handle the responsibility. Age is really not all its about. Some kids are not old enough to own a gun at 30.
     
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  20. 40calruler

    40calruler Lake Oswego Well-Known Member

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    My kid having a gun I bought and control is one thing but a random guy selling my kid a gun is not OK with me.
     
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