BTW, should anyone care, that pole they used in the movie was PVC, and they had a small hole drilled with a tube tied to it with some vacuum suction to hold his tongue to the pole.
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That's pretty neat. I recently bought a mossy 500 combo, which has 2 barrels (18.5 and 28) and a pistol grip in addition to the regular stock. Haven't tried the pistol grip yet (or the 18.5 barrel for that matter) but I love the versatility I got with this purchase!
I took an old farm gun and cut it down myself. This way did not change the characteristics of a good shotgun. Just a fun thing to shoot, from the hip mostly. View attachment 359156
Pistol grip shotguns are very difficult to control....at least the ones without a butstock. As cool as you think they might look, it would be the modification of last resort and only if space was critical.....like in a tank....the myth of shotgun spread is also too prevalent in modern culture, at common hall distances In a home....your pattern will seldom be over 6" if that....you still need the accuracy. Many if not most police departments have gone away from them as well for the same reason.
BTW, should anyone care, that pole they used in the movie was PVC, and they had a small hole drilled with a tube tied to it with some vacuum suction to hold his tongue to the pole.
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What year is your Mossberg? I ask because both the Pachmayr Vindicator and Hogue Overmolded pistol grips fit my 500, but the matching fore-end pump parts in their kits did not (right at first). They would have if my 500 was older.
I called around and found innards (metal pump/slider legs) from an older 500, and now everything fits. Can't tell you what year Mossberg started selling their 28 & 18" combo kits with the cheaper Maverick fore-end innards, mine included. I think it was about 8-10 years ago, and I'll come back to edit with the date if I stumble over that info at home. It was a bit of a bummer for me until I found the retro 500 slider legs for $25.
All better now and worth it to me. I like the soft, rubbery feel of the Hogue kit. Very comfortable to shoot - far more so than those little hard plastic pistol grips I've tried on other people's 12 gauges. Especially with heavy buckshot and slugs.
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Look up the spread experiments on line.........you are deluding yourself.....at 20 feet the wad is still with the shot.
Funny, I've actually bounced the wad off a clay before while all the shot missed.
As mentioned, 12g is pretty sharp in recoil, esp. 3" rounds!, that is why I prefer my 20g w/3" shells w/#2 buck (18 pellets 6.8mm/.27caliber at once should do a pretty decent job). Not sure why control is an issue, I have no problem with control and hitting the target holding it chest high and not using any body, just arms. We are all different though, and what works well for one, may not be a reasonable choice for another. I don't have a lot of upper body, but my arms and wrists do fine.I agree, as we age the shock of a 12 gauge on the wrist & fingers can be very uncomfortable.