Oregon's high court to consider proposed gun-control measure

[E4mafia]

I just certainly hope people see more than just an attack on the 2A with this. Hopefully they'll see the bigger picture that there is a very verbally strongly assertive effort being well maintained and oiled to be counter to your every day lively hood and well being by counter voting against your state/national interests in the name of agenda driven fanatical groups hell bent on your replacement.

 

[Lexdiesel]

I just certainly hope people see more than just an attack on the 2A with this. Hopefully they'll see the bigger picture that there is a very verbally strongly assertive effort being well maintained and oiled to be counter to your every day lively hood and well being by counter voting against your state/national interests in the name of agenda driven fanatical groups hell bent on your replacement.

I hope that people who have lived here long enough to know that guns have never been a problem in this state. I couldn't imagine that anyone in eastern Oregon would vote yes. My county will vote no. It would be crazy to think that this would change the landscape of modern day hunting.

 

[Pete F]

I hope that people who have lived here long enough to know that guns have never been a problem in this state. I couldn't imagine that anyone in eastern Oregon would vote yes. My county will vote no. It would be crazy to think that this would change the landscape of modern day hunting.

Most of us are not as concerned about hunting as we are about self defense and gun registration. The 2nd Amendment is under attack and if we don't stop it now, then we can worry about standard hunting rifles (not MSRs), because they will be next.

 

[ma96782]

These religious folks forgot the lessons of NAZI GERMANY.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

by: Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.

Now, my version, with my slight changes........

First they came for the Socialists Bump Fire Stocks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist had no Bump Fire Stocks.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists Semi-automatic firearms, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist had no Semi-automatic firearms.

Then they came for the Jews shotguns, rifles and revolvers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew did not own a shotgun, rifle or revolver.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me real weapons left to put up a fight with.

Aloha, Mark

 

[nehalemguy]

I read through the comments section in The Oregonian article. It's not a very friendly place for the anti gun crowd, which is rather surprising to me.

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[Lexdiesel]

I read through the comments section in The Oregonian article. It's not a very friendly place for the anti gun crowd, which is rather surprising to me.

E

I load up the comment section with pro-gun statements. I make multiple posts

 

[ma96782]

I don't like giving personal information just to register and leave a comment on an internet site.

Who knows what will happen next with my info?

Aloha, Mark

 

[E4mafia]

oh man I found more things from our OPFOR page:

https://libcloud.s3.amazonaws.com/9/a2/3/1982/MAIG_-_2_-_Background_checks_national_charts_-_b.pdf

Bishops Against Gun Violence |

Trace the Guns

Mayors Leading the Fight

Lots of support units in place!

 

[nammac]

It's nice to see the Oregon Supreme Court deciding to fast track this and not allow petitioners the oppprtunity for oral arguments...

Guess the judicial system only avails itself to hear some arguments but not others.

Wonder if they would have fast tracked it if the issue at hand were "constitutional Carry".... I suspect that would have taken months...

The entire political and judicial systems in this state require federal
investigation... Talk about corruption...

 

[Jim Colvill]

The upside to this is the AG won't be able to rubber stamp this until the 18th. The earliest the antis will be able to gather signatures should be around the 21st with a cutoff date on the 6th of July; barring any shenanigans of course.

I see the name of Alcena Boozer on the list of the clergy going for this. Where was her enlightened spirit of justice when I was bleeding on her desk back in '73 when she was a vice principal at Grant H.S. and I had been jumped in the park returning from lunch? I may have forgiven but I have never forgotten.

 

[Argonaut]

Here's an idea, why don't 51% of Oregonians get together and vote to imprison and take the assets of the other 49% of Oregonians? I mean, our country was founded on mob rule and the majority wins right? Damn the constitution and people's rights! It's not like we're a Republic or anything!

Idiots.

That is the definition of a democracy and why we don't have (or want) one. We have a representative republic. Otherwise we would have President Hillary. I usually illustrate it like 3 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. We have to be much more careful about the representatives we choose on the coast. From Canada to Mexico, the problem is the people living within 100 miles of the coast.

 

[NW Backpacker]

Most of us are not as concerned about hunting as we are about self defense and gun registration. The 2nd Amendment is under attack and if we don't stop it now, then we can worry about standard hunting rifles (not MSRs), because they will be next.

Too late. IP43 does attack standard hunting rifles if they happen to be semi-autos with detachable magazines, and if they have a "shroud" which partially or completely encircles the barrel so the non-trigger hand can hold the barrel without being burned. All semi-auto hunting rifles have such a shroud - it's called the forend or forearm.

The text of IP43 appears to classify these guns as "assault weapons":

File:Ruger-1022.jpg - Wikipedia

BAR

 

[ma96782]

Consider this.......what if the pro gun side started their own IP?

Title the measure........"FREEDOM to defend yourself."

Then.....knowing that people don't/won't bother in most cases to actually READ the details. Stick in.......pro gun provisions that would make it legal to own hi-caps and semi-auto firearms.

Democracy is messy........Rrrright. Who would vote against having the FREEDOM to defend yourself?

Aloha, Mark

 

[E4mafia]

Consider this.......what if the pro gun side started their own IP?

Title the measure........"FREEDOM to defend yourself."

Then.....knowing that people don't/won't bother in most cases to actually READ the details. Stick in.......pro gun provisions that would make it legal to own hi-caps and semi-auto firearms.

Democracy is messy........Rrrright. Who would vote against having the FREEDOM to defend yourself?

Aloha, Mark

This is exactly what I would expect OFF/NRA to finally be doing instead of always being reactionary.

Not like they dont have tons of donation support and backings from moderately wealthy base, not like its a salvation army theres a surplus of actual gun owners across the entire united states from all political walks.

Always going defensive with "muh constitution" doesnt seem to phase them as much anymore and as evident lately they find ways to skirt it in courts like they tried to with DC vs Heller cases.

 

[telemakos]

It's not too early to be talking about Jury Nullification. Even if we do lose at the polls we can win in the Jury Box almost every time with blanket Not Guilty votes.

 

[Doublesunder]

It's not too early to be talking about Jury Nullification. Even if we do lose at the polls we can win in the Jury Box almost every time with blanket Not Guilty votes.

I agree with this, unfortunately the prosecution will try to paint the citizen as a criminal who kicks small children and puppy dogs. Along with multiple erroneous charges to insure something sticks.

And to be brutally honest, the average person on a jury can't make the distinction between government suppression of your rights vs criminal activity.

Most people assume since you are accused that you are also guilty.

People have the sheep mentality.

 

[caarecengi]

Oregon's high court to consider proposed gun-control measure

Who makes the rules
(Someone else)
The rules are written in the stone
Break the rules and you get no bones
All you get is ridicule, laughter
And a trip to the house of pain!
- Danny Elfman

 

[Boboclown]

Who would vote against having the FREEDOM to defend yourself?

Same people who would vote against you owning a gun.

Remember, if a burglar breaks in you have to give them your stuff so they can afford to get their diploma.

 

[Procyon]

Since when was the church allowed to interfere with the state!

TAX THEM INTO OBLIVION!

 

[NW Backpacker]

NRA is going to kick butt and take names:
NRA-ILA | Oregon: NRA Opposes Attempt to Fast-Track Gun Ban Initiative

Maybe there will be some judges, AGs, and others taking a trip to the big house over IP43.