Oregon State Senate Bill 346(restricts sale and transfer of large capacity magazines)

[df662]

Here we go.... Introduced on Jan 13.... Write your reps people. Now!!!!!


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You can also do a search for bill 346 here to check on the status....


http://apps.leg.state.or.us/MeasureInfo/Measure



CONTACT LIST OF OREGON STATE SENATORS


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Senator Herman Baertschiger (R) - [email protected]
Senator Alan Bates (D) - [email protected]
Senator Lee Beyer (D) - [email protected]
Senator Brian Boquist (R) - [email protected]
Senator Ginny Burdick (D) - [email protected]
Senator Betsy Close (R) - [email protected]
Senator Peter Courtney (D) - [email protected]
Senator Richard Devlin (D) - [email protected]
Senator Jackie Dingfelder (D) - [email protected]
Senator Chris Edwards (D) - [email protected]
Senator Ted Ferrioli (R) - [email protected]
Senator Larry George (R) - [email protected]
Senator Fred Girod (R) - [email protected]
Senator Bill Hansell (R) - [email protected]
Senator Mark Hass (D) - [email protected]
Senator Betsy Johnson (D) - [email protected]
Senator Tim Knopp (R) - [email protected]
Senator Jeff Kruse (R) - [email protected]
Senator Laurie Monnes Anderson (D) - [email protected]
Senator Rod Monroe (D) - [email protected]
Senator Alan Olsen (D) - [email protected]
Senator Floyd Prozanski (D) - [email protected]
Senator Arnie Roblan (D) - [email protected]
Senator Diane Rosenbaum (D) - [email protected]
Senator Chip Shields (D) - [email protected]
Senator Bruce Starr (R) - [email protected]
Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward (D) - [email protected]
Senator Chuck Thomsen (R) - [email protected]
Senator Doug Whitsett (R) - [email protected]
Senator Jackie Winters (R) - [email protected]






OREGON STATE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CONTACT LIST


Floyd Prozanski, Chair (D) -- [email protected]
Betsy Close, Vice Chair (R) -- [email protected]
Jeff Kruse (R) -- [email protected]
Jackie Dingfelder (D) -- [email protected]
Arnie Roblan (D) -- [email protected]




SAMPLE LETTER (feel free to use)

Subject: SB346, Protect the 2nd Amendment


Dear Senators / Representatives,


I am writing to voice my opposition to any new firearm/magazine legislation created secondary to the tragic events in Newtown, Connecticut. Infringing on the right of the people to exercise their Second Amendment rights will do nothing to stem the tide of violence in America.

Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT suffered a horrible tragedy in December 2012 when a madman went on a rampage against innocent children. I literally cannot imagine the pain and devastation those families experienced. Many people in the media and throughout the country immediately ran to call for stricter gun laws &#8211; especially to ban assault weapons and high- capacity ammunition clips. All of these people missed the point entirely: the people behind gun tragedies should be held responsible for their reprehensible actions. The rest of the law-abiding citizens should not have to have more of their liberties taken away from them due to a madman's assault on human lives. We should attempt to detect these mentally unstable individuals at an earlier time with hopes of keeping weapons out of their hands, but that should be the extent of further government interference.

It is not government's place to meddle and handicap law-abiding citizens &#8211; especially in an area where the Constitution has already explicitly made its case. More citizens should even be encouraged to own weapons and to become more proficient in the weapons they own. Criminals have always preferred and will continue to prefer unarmed victims. Prison surveys indicate when a criminal considers breaking into a home, the greatest deterrent, in his mind, is the fear that his intended victims might be armed. Members of the government should not fear an armed citizenry for this reason.

Once again I urge you to oppose ANY new firearm /magazine regulations that would infringe on the rights of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. Thank you for your time.


Respectfully,

~~ Your Name Here ~~




SAMPLE LETTER #2

Dear Senators,

I am a law-abiding citizen and responsible gun owner.

I am saddened by the tragic events in Newtown, Connecticut, but I believe that efforts to impose new firearm/magazine restrictions on me and other lawful and responsible owners like me are misguided. Did you know that violent crime with firearms has declined since the Federal "assault weapons ban" expired in 2004?

Your focus should be on strengthening mental health care and improving the quality of data supporting NICs checks (National Instant Criminal Background Check System). Do NOT pass more gun laws; instead, work to enforce the more than 20,000 gun laws already on the books.

I am your constituent and I vote. Please represent me.

Sincerely,
(Your Contact Information)

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[duane black]

Here we go.... Introduced on Jan 13....


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You folks in OR need to fight this. Right here, right now.

On a side note ( I'm not a lawyer ) what would stop you folks from crossing the Columbia and buying mags here ? Seems to me it doesnt say a thing about buying, unless Im missing something here ? Or online ?

It's hard to understand that these folks waste time on this BS when there is so much more than they could be doing. I'm having California flashbacks at the moment.

SECTION 1. { + (1) A person commits the crime of unlawfully
transferring a large capacity magazine if the person knowingly
sells, or otherwise transfers for consideration, a large capacity
magazine.

BTW - this is how it went down in California. A little here, a little there, and in 20 years you have so much to fight it will take a few generations to do it. Do not let these folks pass ONE SINGLE control related bill, EVER.

 

[DireWolf]

Sent e-mails to my state rep and senator.

 

[df662]

Technically buying from a dealer, private party, etc... is a transfer

 

[oli700]

EFF feeble emails, your words have no teeth, they get deleted, your pleas have fallen on deaf ears......put down the key board and get to the capital on the 8th​!

 

[duane black]

Technically buying from a dealer, private party, etc... is a transfer

Correct, but OR state law doesn't apply across the Columbia. I do not see " import " in the bill...

I'M NOT A LAWYER !

 

[df662]

EFF feeble emails, your words have no teeth, they get deleted, your pleas have fallen on deaf ears......put down the key board and get to the capital on the 8th​!

Write your reps and show up on the 8th

 

[DireWolf]

Chuck Thomsen responded via iPhone already.

Hello XXXX. Thanks for the email. I am a big supporter of our 2nd amendment rights. I'm sure there will be a lot of conversation on these issues in the coming months. I will do what I can to uphold our rights. Thanks again, chuck

Sent from my iPhone

 

[moose]

I don't get the 'emergency' part.

This would make my tube feed M62 pump action 22lr illegal since it only seem to allow lever actions. What a bunch of dorks.

 

[Bob D]

How do they plan on enforce this? Magazines don't have serial numbers.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

Here we go.... Introduced on Jan 13.... Write your reps people. Now!!!!!


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You can also do a search for bill 346 here to check on the status....


Measure Search

A couple of points:

1) It doesn't specify a cartridge or a size (e.g. doesn't say, ".22LR"). It specifies a barrel caliber of .22. A .22 caliber rifle could include a .22 magnum, a new variation of the .217 HMR in .22 caliber, or how about a slightly smaller .223? Maybe a .220 Swift AR-15? Who's going to be the first manufacturer to make a tube fed .22 caliber AR-15 in one of these calibers? Multiple tubes, anyone?

2) "...for consideration..." in legalese means "in return for something of value". That something of value can be money, trade goods, or a promise of future benefit. Under this law, as it's worded, it would be legal to give away a 30 round magazine. I foresee a lot of difficulty proving that a gift was really a trade. (e.g. "I'll trade you a 30 round magazine for two bags of premium dog food."...and later "Your honor, we had the evidence laying in little piles all over the defendant's property, but it rained before we could scoop it up.")

It's kinda comical when people who aren't very bright or informed collude to try to regulate something they know nothing about.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

I don't get the 'emergency' part.

This would make my tube feed M62 pump action 22lr illegal since it only seem to allow lever actions. What a bunch of dorks.

Read again. Any caliber lever action, tube fed would be legal. Also, any .22 caliber tube fed rifle, regardless of action type. How about a tube fed, .220 Swift AR style rifle?

 

[Bob D]

1) It doesn't specify a cartridge or a size (e.g. doesn't say, ".22LR"). It specifies a barrel caliber of .22. A .22 caliber rifle could include a .22 magnum, a new variation of the .217 HMR in .22 caliber, or how about a slightly smaller .223? Maybe a .220 Swift AR-15? Who's going to be the first manufacturer to make a tube fed .22 caliber AR-15 in one of these calibers? Multiple tubes, anyone?

Ten .223 rounds in a tube is already almost two feet long. you wouldn't get a very high capacity out of it.

.220 Swift is even longer.

 

[duane black]

A couple of points:

2) "...for consideration..." in legalese means "in return for something of value". That something of value can be money, trade goods, or a promise of future benefit. Under this law, as it's worded, it would be legal to give away a 30 round magazine. I foresee a lot of difficulty proving that a gift was really a trade. (e.g. "I'll trade you a 30 round magazine for two bags of premium dog food."...and later "Your honor, we had the evidence laying in little piles all over the defendant's property, but it rained before we could scoop it up.")

It's kinda comical when people who aren't very bright or informed collude to try to regulate something they know nothing about.

This is another good point. It seems to me the bill is missing some very key words to put teeth into it, we probably should stop discussing that aspect.

It would be just like California's ; VERY hard to enforce. If you are board, look into magazine repair kits... Calguns wiki has some nice insight.

 

[DireWolf]

Who's going to be the first manufacturer to make a tube fed .22 caliber AR-15 in one of these calibers?

No one.

 

[BigDaddyDMD]

Already sent messages to my state senators and representative. Messages may or may not fall on deaf ears, but I hope to hear back from them and hear where they stand on bill 346. The best thing will be to amass again in Salem, and hopefully many more will be there this time. This kind of bill is how it all started in CA. (no disrespect to any Californians on the forum) and needs to be thwarted.

 

[oli700]

Write your reps and show up on the 8th

That's a great compromise, I'm in

 

[fd15k]

This bill seems to be in the Judiciary now. Write to the members of the Judiciary Committee as well!

P.S. Why is this not in Legal and Political section ?

 

[trainsktg]

SECTION 3. { + This 2013 Act being necessary for the immediate
preservation of the public peace, health and safety, an emergency
is declared to exist, and this 2013 Act takes effect on its
passage. + }

What? No reference to 'the children'?

I'm currently reading a book on the arguments in favor of that led to the passage of the 18th Amendment (Prohibition). It was for the children too. One provision in the law was that alcohol was not allowed within 300 feet of a school.

Keith

 

[df662]

Updated original post with judiciary committee contact list...