Is bill HB1143 based on purchase date or transfer date

[flylow]

Hi everyone. I just heard about Bill HB1143 ( I missed out on it for some reason... ) and I wanted to see if this is based on purchase date or transfer date? I.e. can I buy a firearm today and have it delivered to the FFL dealer sometime in January. Would that go through the new process or would I be grandfathered in the old process because I made the purchase in 2023?

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[ATCclears]

Nope. If you buy today you're going to get snared by HB 1143.

I asked a FFL the same question in early December, and accelerated a purchase of an O/U shotgun then to get it in-hand before Jan 1, 2024.

 

[drstrangelove]

Today is your last day to start paperwork without the law requiring a 10business day wait

 

[flylow]

Ah ok so I definitely missed it. Thank you all... I signed up for alerts going forward. I shouldn't have missed this.

 

[ATCclears]

As an aside, HB 1902 and HB 2054 are proposed for the 2023/2024 Legislative session. If HB 1902 is approved then one will have to comply with a new, cumbersome Permit process. If HB 2054 is approved then one can likely acquire a maximum of one firearm every 30 days.

My recommendation: buy whatever you're going to buy before HB 1902 and HB 2054 are approved...


https://www.northwestfirearms.com/t...-the-purchase-or-transfer-of-firearms.467207/

Washington - HB 2054 (2023/2024) - Max 1 firearm within any 30-day period

A dealer may not deliver more than one firearm to a purchaser or transferee within any 30-day period. https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2054&Year=2023&Initiative=false

www.northwestfirearms.com

 

[flylow]

Oh great. What the heck is going on with Washington state... Ok I will make my second purchase. I appreciate the help! I have CPL so hopefully that will help a b it with the process. I just completed the online training and got the certificate so hopefully that also speeds things up At this point I've given up on having any notion of privacy when it comes to buying a gun in Washington.

 

[bradsteen]

Buy now (guns, ammo, and accessories) while you can, regardless of wait time. The noose is just gonna keep getting tighter and tighter on lawful gun ownership in WA. Even if SCOTUS slaps down our current gun laws, our legislature will undoubtedly do the same thing as NY, CA, and other states and simply pass more gun laws. They don't care if it's constitutional or not, and have an unlimited budget with which to fight legal battles.

 

[gmerkt]

What the heck is going on with Washington state.

Dictatorial, Communistic disarmament.

 

[gmerkt]

The noose is just gonna keep getting tighter and tighter on lawful gun ownership in WA

This. The antis are working on this day and night.

 

[gmerkt]

I have CPL so hopefully that will help a b it with the process.

I don't think that will help the process along one little bit. They want a separate BGC for every transaction. After all, you may have fallen off the wagon since the last one.

 

[Ducati_Meister]

They got away with passing unconstitutional laws here in WA, so they will continue to go full fart to shred our 2A rights to bits until it's a fine dust. As one said in a previous post, the constitution means dick to the anti American WA gooberment.

 

[arakboss]

Am I missing it or is the text of this law missing definitions.


https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Amendments/House/1143-S2 AMH BERR H1620.4.pdf

 

[ATCclears]

https://x.com/scs_real/status/1741711997698208040?s=20

 

[arakboss]

https://x.com/scs_real/status/1741711997698208040?s=20

that's funny stuff.

 

[arakboss]

Has anybody taken the free course that @Sporting Systems is providing? Is it something somebody could easily do on their phone in the car and receive the certificate of completion electronically and immediately?

 

[arakboss]

My recommendation for WA residents looking for a non-semi auto long gun is to buy it in Oregon.

 

[ATCclears]

I did the free class from Sporting Systems yesterday. I assume you could do it on your mobile phone but am not sure if their website for the training is compatible.

For anyone who hasn't seen this and lives in WA State, you need to complete this training or similar to purchase a firearm in WA State going forward.... HB 1143

Free HB-1143/I-1639 Firearms Safety Training Program

Get WA firearm safety certified (HB1143) online & for FREE. Easy, convenient, legal solution. Get started right now! Sporting Systems Firearms and Ammo.

sporting-systems.com

 

[arakboss]

I did the free class from Sporting Systems yesterday. I assume you could do it on your mobile phone but am not sure if their website for the training is compatible.

For anyone who hasn't seen this and lives in WA State, you need to complete this training or similar to purchase a firearm in WA State going forward.... HB 1143

Free HB-1143/I-1639 Firearms Safety Training Program

Get WA firearm safety certified (HB1143) online & for FREE. Easy, convenient, legal solution. Get started right now! Sporting Systems Firearms and Ammo.

sporting-systems.com

How much time investment was involved, did you get proof of completion right away?

 

[ATCclears]

@arakboss the Sporting Systems course took perhaps 30min. There is nothing new in there for a knowledgable, responsible gun owner.

I was able to download the PDF certificate immediately at the end of the course.

 

[Bello425]

My recommendation for WA residents looking for a non-semi auto long gun is to buy it in Oregon.

I'm not sure that is going to work. I went to Fisherman's and they have signs saying ANY firearm purchase will have to be sent to a WA FFL. I might be wrong…