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Sorry, the exact wording of the law is actually "tamper-resistant", and no definition of what this means is offered. Also, a tamper-resistant lock is only a requirement for a "gun room"; there is no standard of quality set for a trigger/cable lock, nor for a locked container.Define "tamper proof". The locks that come with some guns are probably some of the cheapest and easiest to "tamper" with.
Do the members who made this bill have "gun rooms" in their dwellings?
Sorry, the exact wording of the law is actually "tamper-resistant", and no definition of what this means is offered. Also, a tamper-resistant lock is only a requirement for a "gun room"; there is no standard of quality set for a trigger/cable lock, nor for a locked container.
IMO that's an absurd statement. The 4th amendment protects you regardless of the laws you're perceived to have violated because of who you are or what your politics are. If the state can't demonstrate to a judge a probable cause supported by evidence, that you may have committed a crime, where they're going to search and what their looking for they aren't searching your house or car and if they do they can't use the evidence found to prosecute you.This is the Dems legalizing the right to search and arrest anyone in their "Safe Spaces" suspected of being a conservative, a Trump supporter or a "Proud Boy". For F Sake, I must have heard the term "Proud Boy" at least 50 times during the SB554 testimonies.
I'm trying to understand how these moron Marxists think. We've never had registration until the Marxists forced private transfers. I'm sure some of us have guns that are registered to other people, you know the Marxists never threw those records away.
Do they plan to prosecute the last owner of that gun? These Marxist idiots are he!! bent on nailing gun owners, not criminals. Which is why crime is skyrocketing,,,
Technically a magazine is part of the firearm so would the firearm be considered disassembled if magazine was not installed?You'd be filing a false police report. That's actually a crime.
Q: If you've read the statute, is there a criminal penalty for failure to comply, or just potential civil liability to victims of crimes a stolen firearm is used in?
Observation: Seems to me that disassembly is more effective and cheaper for most firearms owners. I have one AR and one bolt. Easier and cheaper for me to lock up the bolt than to buy a safe to hold the gun. That's also way more effective than an action trigger lock.
2nd Observation. This might be objectionable, but nowhere close to CA or NY.
QFTPart of our country's problem now is that people with disagreements don't engage with each other anymore and treat people with differing views as human, making it impossible to compromise on anything
See. Just like that.
I'm trying to understand how these moron Marxists think. We've never had registration until the Marxists forced private transfers. I'm sure some of us have guns that are registered to other people, you know the Marxists never threw those records away.
Do they plan to prosecute the last owner of that gun? These Marxist idiots are he!! bent on nailing gun owners, not criminals. Which is why crime is skyrocketing,,,
... The ACLU figures the NRA and smaller 2A advocacy groups have the 2A fight, the liberals that staff that organization will fight for your other constitutional rights like freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. ...
American Marxism, is that better? The democrat party is dead! It's filled with Marxists and avowed racists now,,,Pretty sure Marx had no position on firearms. But he was verbose and a prolific writer so maybe somewhere in Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto he mentioned it, but I'd think he'd lean toward arming the prolateriate rather than taking their arms.
I believe that means "quoted for truth" as in, he agrees with you.See. Just like that.
Unless it's explicitly stated somewhere what constitutes a disassembled firearm it will be for a court decide if it ever gets there. Personally, I wouldn't want to be the one to roll the dice on that one. Not like you walk in there and the judge goes "Aww shucks...well technically you are right. You got us there. Free to go!" and unless you have money to burn on attorney fees, getting those kinds of rulings isn't easy.Technically a magazine is part of the firearm so would the firearm be considered disassembled if magazine was not installed?
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That is the story of our lives in just about every aspect of gun laws. Can a person pin 17rnd mags to 10rnds at home and be compliant with 10rnd mag limits, etc.Unless it's explicitly stated somewhere what constitutes a disassembled firearm it will be for a court decide if it ever gets there. Personally, I wouldn't want to be the one to roll the dice on that one. Not like you walk in there and the judge goes "Aww shucks...well technically you are right. You got us there. Free to go!" and unless you have money to burn on attorney fees, getting those kinds of rulings isn't easy.
I would say it's the story of laws in general. We just tend to deal with it more often.That is the story of our lives in just about every aspect of gun laws. Can a person pin 17rnd mags to 10rnds at home and be compliant with 10rnd mag limits, etc.