Occufight, anyone going to watch?

[Both Eyes Open]

22many, what makes my join date a pertinant part of this conversation? I own guns, have most my life. I support my right to own them. In fact I even used to be a member here but I had a child and tending to him is more important than building my reputation here. Now I don't get on here that often. During the time that I was offline the forum found it necessary to cancel my membership. I am ok with that. I will just become a new member now that I have more time. So does that mean I can't have an opinion. How long did you wait after joining to put in your 2 cents on a thread? To have a Moderator come on here and give me bubblegum for not being a member long enough to voice my opinion is abuse of his authority! Now I will say it again. I am ok to agree to disagree with alot of you on the political state of our country and the Occupy Movement and we can all stand together on protecting our second amendment rights... Unless you don't think I have been a member long enough to stand up against gun control!

 

[greydog111]

I have a cure that I rarely hear anybody mention, how about we only elect leaders who govern according to the US Constitution. Nah, never happen, too many people want something for nothing.

There ya go thinkin again.

 

[greydog111]

Just making a guess here but something tells me that Rufus is a Glen Beck fan... lol

Multiple ad hominum attacks. Substance people! Its a sign of ignorance to attack the messenger when the message does'nt fit your ideaology! No one is disputing the right to assemble or speak freely, only the tactics of the self absorbed, drug addeled, over indulged occupiers. No coherent, cogent message conveyed there!

 

[greydog111]

You think? He is either a fan of Beck or auto-erotic asphyxiation. Both will kill brain cells.

WOW!

 

[22many]

22many, what makes my join date a pertinant part of this conversation? I own guns, have most my life. I support my right to own them. In fact I even used to be a member here but I had a child and tending to him is more important than building my reputation here. Now I don't get on here that often. During the time that I was offline the forum found it necessary to cancel my membership. I am ok with that. I will just become a new member now that I have more time. So does that mean I can't have an opinion. How long did you wait after joining to put in your 2 cents on a thread? To have a Moderator come on here and give me bubblegum for not being a member long
enough to voice my opinion is abuse of his authority! Now I will say it again. I am ok to agree to disagree with alot of you on the political state of our country and the Occupy Movement and we can all stand together on protecting our second amendment rights... Unless you don't think I have been a member long enough to stand up against gun control!

Please try to see it from the other members and moderators eyes. Your joint date and posts are important to the subject at hand. Countless times people have joined this forum to argue on a certain subject only to never see or hear from them again. To push their views off on other people and that is (was) their sole intent. Internet trolls is what some people call them. Having a longer join date and posts that are a variety of topics has gone a long way towards creditability. Not only on this forum but generally anything you do in life.

Having posted your last post that I quoted on has given me some insight on your experience on this board before. Sharing your prior experience gives you a little more creditability and shows others that you are not just here to push you views off on other people.

 

[supergenius]

You think? He is either a fan of Beck or auto-erotic asphyxiation. Both will kill brain cells.

Dont threaten me with a Garbage bag and a good time... My girl's hands are too small to choke me out :O)


If you want something done right..... LOL

 

[greydog111]

shibbershabber,

You are completely correct. The sad thing is, all your factual information can be overshadowed in some people's minds simply by having a right wing talking head say "It's Clinton's fault." Then all facts and reality go out the window.

NO! It's Bush's fault. Havent you been listening?

 

[22many]

Dont threaten me with a Garbage bag and a good time...

I don't know why but I can't stop laughing at your comment! Lmao! Nice one supergenius!

 

[greydog111]

I don't know why but I can't stop laughing at your comment! Lmao! Nice one supergenius!

I think I puked in my mouth a little just now. Keep the perversions to yourselves PLEASE!

 

[Rapid1]

A quote from a letter in the editorial of the Register Guard this morning: (not mine)

"The Occupy addresses legitimate concerns that a significant segment of the governed in America have about the influence of large corporations on the political process that elects our government and the laws passed by the government so elected."

I agree with this statement but the problem is, I don't really see where the Occupy is focused on changing the political process. I believe that many in the OM see the issue this way but nowhere do I see it portrayed as such.

This influence of the political process is enabled by our politicians, those WE elect. IF the process didn't allow for being "bought off", it wouldn't be. The government created our woes, not corporations. The whole Occupy movement is focused at the wrong side of the problem. This is the real reason that the Occupy movements get a pass from the government, mainstream media and many of you posters.

I find the OP's original questions amusing as well as his apparent fall off the deep end of this conversation, name calling and foolish innuendos. It was not long ago that many of these same people were "bagging" on the Tea party for protests aimed directly at government corruption and spending. These are the same that ignore the facts, simply because they were pointed out on Fox News or Glenn Beck.

Just take a LOOK at the difference in the two groups. How you guys can vilify the Tea Party and then stick up for the Occupy groups is pretty amazing. Promoting the idea that Occupiers should be able to break the law in the name of rights is absurd. Without respect for others rights, yours mean nothing.

 

[whiskeybill]

A quote from a letter in the editorial of the Register Guard this morning: (not mine)

"The Occupy addresses legitimate concerns that a significant segment of the governed in America have about the influence of large corporations on the political process that elects our government and the laws passed by the government so elected."

I agree with this statement but the problem is, I don't really see where the Occupy is focused on changing the political process. I believe that many in the OM see the issue this way but nowhere do I see it portrayed as such.

This influence of the political process is enabled by our politicians, those WE elect. IF the process didn't allow for being "bought off", it wouldn't be. The government created our woes, not corporations. The whole Occupy movement is focused at the wrong side of the problem. This is the real reason that the Occupy movements get a pass from the government, mainstream media and many of you posters.

I find the OP's original questions amusing as well as his apparent fall off the deep end of this conversation, name calling and foolish innuendos. It was not long ago that many of these same people were "bagging" on the Tea party for protests aimed directly at government corruption and spending. These are the same that ignore the facts, simply because they were pointed out on Fox News or Glenn Beck.

Just take a LOOK at the difference in the two groups. How you guys can vilify the Tea Party and then stick up for the Occupy groups is pretty amazing. Promoting the idea that Occupiers should be able to break the law in the name of rights is absurd. Without respect for others rights, yours mean nothing.

Last night I saw a refreshing news segment on CBS 60 Minutes about "insider trading" by members of Congress, and it cut across both party lines. Chief among the nest padders were Nancy Pelosi and John Bohner. Laws are set up so they are immune from prosecution for the same actions that would send any of us off to jail. Congressmen and Senators are privy to so much inside information on buisness and the stock market (they write so many laws dealing with the same), how is it that off of a paltry annual salary just over $100,000, they can leave Congress so very wealthy? Many of them also leave Congress to a posh position as lobbyists, right there in DC. As for the Occupy protesters targeting banks and Wall Street firms, how is it that these institutions get away with so much supposed "Hanky-panky", when the Federal Government already has bank inspectors and the SEC watching over them? It smells of collusion to me. Follow the stink, and it brings us to corrupt government officials, elected and otherwise. Speaking of free government health care. I'm retired Navy, and my benefits are being cut. These same Congressmen, Senators, and even the President just hop on over to Bethesda Naval Hospital and have their every health care need attended to. Senator John McCain is urging the "Super Commitee" to cut health care benefits of retired military, and yet keep (or even increase) funding for military equipment. I wonder which defense industry lobbyist is buying him off? Thanks shipmate!!

 

[swoop]

You destroy public property whenever you walk across the grass at the park. Even city officials have stated that the damage to the park is minimal (less than from public concerts in most cases). Stop trying to use trivial topics to disguise your unwillingness to support the rights of those you disagree with. Nowhere does it state in the constitution that their rights shall not be abridged as long as they don't kill any grass.

And by your logic, as long as anti-gun regulations are passed by local communities they are fine (since the constitution regulates only the passing of laws against the infringement of the right to carry) or that the right to bear arms only applies as long as you do not offend anyone or cause any harm.

Public concerts don't last for thirty plus days with piss puke and poop all over the place. This is nothing more than a move on .org-code pink organized event, funded by non other than the socialist, marxist, " Big George "

 

[swoop]

So I guess trlsmn needs to add to the rule book exactly how long one has to be a member here before they can voice an opinion. He should also make a point of telling everyone in a thread how long each person has been a member... Because that is so important to the issue!!! I think that you don't like what you are hearing, and like FOX news, you have to resort to name calling and insults to make yourself feel like a man. Get your head out of "your utero" and smell something that doesn't stink so bad. Its called the truth! Sure, I will admit to being liberal but I don't have much option with what your precious GOP has to offer....Anyway, back to the topic at hand. The Occupy Movement is a success! I will openly agree that (IF) they broke up a foundation, they shouldn't have. That doesn't mean that I am going to join the band wagon here and tell people they are wrong for exercising their 1st amendment rights! At least through all our disagreements over the first amendment... We can stand together one one other issue... Our 2nd amendment.

OUT!

Are you any relation to a guy named Bug Eye? He used to be a member here, and shared many of your views and opinions.

 

[Asp]

Public concerts don't last for thirty plus days with piss puke and poop all over the place. This is nothing more than a move on .org-code pink organized event, funded by non other than the socialist, marxist, " Big George "

Funny you should say that, inside the camp prior to the deadline I saw some self-proclaimed university students passing out commie (Marxist) pamphlets.

I'm ashamed of the occupy movement, and I don't understand why they don't try to get the tea partiers on board. Both groups want to see more government accountability (and/or transparency).
But unfortunately, it's worse since the occupiers seem to associate TP'ers with ultra-rich and in league with Nazis and the gestapo, which is ironic considering that if the occupiers get what some of them want we'd have stasi. Of course when conservative leaning people see a bunch of dirty looking youth (about a 1/3 of the occupiers I saw), conservative-leaning people will wonder the same about them. Round and round it goes...

 

[Chee-to]

Peaceful Occupiers caught with DD's

A traffic stop of a speeding vehicle led to the arrest of three men, who claimed to be Occupy Portland demonstrators, and the seizure of incendiary devices, gas masks and fireworks.

More at; Marion County Traffic Stop Yields Incendiary Devices & Gas Masks Intended for Occupy Portland

 

[JackFrost]

All I have to say is that I am amazed at alot of you here on this forum! Those of you who hold our 2nd amendment in such high reguards will bash someone who is standing up for their 1st amendment rights! You (and you know who you are) should be ashamed of your selves for being hypocritical! There are alot of people who don't agree with your views on guns but they sit back and let you have your voice. That is because they are mature adults. Those of you who jump at the chance to call the protesters that are sticking up for you (where you don't have the balls to) "Commies" are just as closed minded and as the fools who want to take away our second amendment rights! Grow the "bubblegum" up and learn that everyone having their own views is what makes this country great! So learn to have respect for your fellow americans reguardless of thier views and leave the name calling to those in our population who's age is in the single digits!

Interesting this thread has not been deleted yet, as it has nothing to do with "firearms"! Similar threads have been deleted over the last few weeks. But seeing as it is still open I will throw my hat in!

I am so sick of being told that the "Protesters" ie Pathetic losers who want a handout, speak for me and the American people. THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! You really are that stupid to think that the protesters voice the opinion of America? Wow you are a fool! They are so confused they dont even know what they are protesting anymore! Dissension in the ranks at Occupy Wall Street - US news - Life - msnbc.com . And yes I am sure there are many that don't agree with my 2nd amendment views but when the Brady campaign or some garbage outfit or politician tries to destroy our 2nd amendment freedom with some worthless restriction or any other infringement I am not camped out in some park, or blocking a street or destroying public/private property to make a point. So dont you DARE tell me they speak for me because I am a coward or dont have the balls to do it on my own! I work my butt off everyday to make ends meet, I started 2 companies over the last 3 years and have watched them fail due to the economy and politics, but I get up every morning and keep on trying because that is character, and self-worth and the RIGHT thing to do! Obviously those are traits you know nothing about! People like you disgust me!

 

[rufus]

A quote from a letter in the editorial of the Register Guard this morning: (not mine)

"The Occupy addresses legitimate concerns that a significant segment of the governed in America have about the influence of large corporations on the political process that elects our government and the laws passed by the government so elected."

I agree with this statement but the problem is, I don't really see where the Occupy is focused on changing the political process. I believe that many in the OM see the issue this way but nowhere do I see it portrayed as such.

This influence of the political process is enabled by our politicians, those WE elect. IF the process didn't allow for being "bought off", it wouldn't be. The government created our woes, not corporations. The whole Occupy movement is focused at the wrong side of the problem. This is the real reason that the Occupy movements get a pass from the government, mainstream media and many of you posters.

I find the OP's original questions amusing as well as his apparent fall off the deep end of this conversation, name calling and foolish innuendos. It was not long ago that many of these same people were "bagging" on the Tea party for protests aimed directly at government corruption and spending. These are the same that ignore the facts, simply because they were pointed out on Fox News or Glenn Beck.

Just take a LOOK at the difference in the two groups. How you guys can vilify the Tea Party and then stick up for the Occupy groups is pretty amazing. Promoting the idea that Occupiers should be able to break the law in the name of rights is absurd. Without respect for others rights, yours mean nothing.

Spot on & very well said. Bravo!

 

[michaels]

Look, disagree with the occupy folks? Do it. Just remember the 2nd amendment doesn't mean a thing without the first.

 

[drew]

Just remember the 2nd amendment doesn't mean a thing without the first.

Think you got that backwards. The 2nd amendment protects the 1st.

 

[michaels]

Hi Drew, I like to use the example of the right and left leg. The left leg needs the support of the right, and the right leg needs the support of the left. I see where you could think I got it backwards. Bit if you think about it perhaps (or maybe not) you will see my point.