Mega Problems With GF: Rabid AR 15...assault weapons.....

[bbbass]

liberalism is a mental illness,

I used to like saying this (Rush is right!) until I realized that I admire much about Classic Liberals of old. Too bad they have been largely pushed aside by the leftists/radicals I am having trouble with now.

 

[Ops]

just buy some suave cocoa butter and live peacefully .

 

[BSG 75]

she is unemployed and her lease notice to renew is due at the end of October.
She was going to live her [sic] rent free but for food and utility costs

She wanted to continue the relationship,

No surprise there.

Be careful or you might end up like the mortified guy with glasses in the background, shackled to this (she's from Portland too):

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[waglockfan]

That video reminds me of someone......

 

[Member 52301]

After 5 years and her nearly moving in to my home in the next 2 months, the topic of the leftist's anti-america platform came up over dinner. The discussion evolved into the far left's goal to dismantle the 2nd A and her position that all "all assault weapons" should not be sold to civilians. Although he had her facts totally wrong, I was in a state of shock over her profound anger over the 'assault rifle' issue. I was so scared of her anger on the issue that I did not mention that I had several. Her anger over the weapons issue was one thing, but what emerged was her livid anger over the "system, the rich, Trump, etc.". In previous discussion on politics I have almost always avoided discussion, thinking that her democratic ideas was moderate, but now I think she is much more left leaning and rabid. She now raised the issue that her moving in could be deal breaker over my conservative politics and pro-gun assault firearms issues.
I was stone cold over her anti-gun assault gun issue although she was not anti-gun on other firearms; so she said.
So, she said that perhaps we should not stay the night together and I told her to do what she wants to do. She left my home very politely, wanted to stay but she clearly saw my stone cold emotions for her and not at all attractions for her and he rapport was destroyed between us. She left about 9 pm. I warned her politely that I thought that her leaving that evening was a very bad idea; now thinking that if she was living here in the future, that she would bolt if things get difficult. She was going to live her rent free but for food and utility costs.

I was royally disgusted with her last night and still am. I am thinking now that she harbored this profound anger over the years, about firearms and the system that there was another side of her personality that caused me to think that my attraction was to somebody else and not this rabid democrat or leftist thinker.

I am disgusted this morning thinking that the 5 year relationship is best left alone and ended. I am looking at some significant surgery late next week, now, thinking I do not want her in my life, although she desired to continue the relationship regardless, stay with me in the hosptial, now thinking I do not want her there; and I did not express any desire to end the relationship, but my gut tells me that her rabid side is very threatening, and thinking of potential red flag laws, that she does not think clearly, and is anti and she now can not be trusted due to the emergence of her clandestine rabid anti-system politics. Thinking now that she would vote to take my gun rights away. She says that she would respect my firearms interests, hunting lifestyle, and politics and that we should not talk about these matters. But, I do not think I can trust her. She reminded me that at my age of a very young looking 71 year old, that I will never find a replacement for someone who loves me as much as she does. Likely so?
I am just disgusted with her clandestine anger over my type of beliefs, and a mega change in my perception that my image of her personality has now changed radically for the worse. My gut is so upset that I have not intent to call her and given the very heated discussion last night I do not want to talk to her. I feel like my love and attraction for her has gone down the drain. I was going to change my will shortly and considerations were to put her in it, but now, that consideration is off the table completely. I see no need to have her move into my home, essentially rent free; and have her potentially vote to take my rights away.
I have son close by who can take care of me during and following the hospital care, and do not want her in my life today or thinking this entire week before the surgery. Any ideas?
Thanks.

Get AWAY from this woman!

RUN don't walk.

Do not get into a verbal or any other type of verbal/emotional fight with her because she sounds like the type of person who would call the LAW on you and claim some type of abuse (A lie.) or claim that you did something not legal (A lie.).

And if this woman has any of HER STUFF aka belongings in YOUR HOME - have her take them out of the home and have one or two people THERE while she removes them while you are PRESENT. Does she have a KEY TO YOUR HOME? Get it and she could have a duplicate key and either way - change the LOCKS to your home.

I could NEVER and still can't understand a man or a woman who marries or lives with (Ugh!) a person that they do NOT KNOW WELL especially in specific areas in life be it politics, religion or lack thereof, habits, lifestyle issues, etc.

And when I say do not know well - it does not matter how LONG that you were together be it in weeks, months or years - maybe she was NEVER HONEST WITH YOU or you did NOT discuss matters that should be and ARE very important in any relationship!

So you could be friends and agree to disagree (NO problem.) but IF you were to make a LIFE together - marriage and/or even LIVE together (Ugh!) before you got married - you better know dang well where you stand in ALL IMPORTANT ISSUES.

Some women play the game and get pregnant so you will be stuck paying for a kid even when the woman tells you that she is on birth control pills or whatever.

And MEN fall for this crapola too. NO offense to any man here.

Sorry to say this but too many MEN and some WOMEN think with their desires of the flesh or what they WANT THEIR SOUL MATE TO BE instead of FACING REALITY on what the soul mate really IS and USING their BRAINS/COMMON SENSE/MORALS in forming a solid and HONEST relationship and/or marriage.

So she was going to move in with you? Pay for a few bills or towards them?

That should be your FIRST SIGN of trouble (Leech?) since she was/is not your LEGAL WIFE and you were the provider for the family unit OR if she was your wife and was going to CONTRIBUTE to the MARRIAGE with money (Whatever amount.) and/or WORKING HARD IN YOUR HOME as a wife usually does.

Most wives work their butts off whether they have children or not INSIDE and OUTSIDE OF THE HOME and their husband does a lot of work to contribute to the family unit too.

I would NOT stay in THIS relationship and IF you do break up - do it in a SANE, POLITE AND SAFE MANNER because a woman LIKE THAT is not to be TRUSTED IN MY VERY BLUNT OPINION. And I would say the SAME EXACT THING IF THE ROLES WERE REVERSED AND WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT A MAN and his gun views and wanting to move in (Ugh!) when you are NOT legally married.

Best wishes to you. Better to find this out NOW although you are years behind on the truth about this woman. NO offense.

Old Lady Cate
PS: I have seen MARRIED MEN get screwed when it came to anti gun women when they SAID THAT THEY WERE ONE THING and they LIED. Plus the women MOVED IN with the men who had a VERY good job or average job and the WOMEN were ONLY after his money and a roof over their head and food in their belly while they spent his money like a - well NEVER mind. NOT allowed here.

 

[Member 52301]

Best wishes with your surgery too. Take care!

Cate

 

[WillametteWill]

Lots of advice, but the quote of the thread came from our friend in La Grande:

IMO, you need more Dr. Laura, and less Dr Oz

Priceless.

Prayers for your recovery and guiding wisdom with your situation.

 

[Diamondback]

She sounds mentally and emotionally unstable. Preempt and get the restraining order and Red Flag in on her before she can get them in on you.

 

[Joe13]

Took 5 years for this to come up?

Pretty much everyone on the left has been whipped into a rabid frenzy so no surprise there...

I'd take a crack at communicating with her when your feeling better and see if you can reach some common ground.

Worst case is it goes nowhere and you get some practice talking about stuff that probably should have been discussed years ago.

Then learn from this with the next one if need be.

Best wishes on a speedy recovery from the surgery

 

[CRBMoA]

Good Luck on a speedy recovery in all areas of your life.

 

[Goosebrown]

Hope you get it figured out and find a good place with her or without her. If you need someone to hang with you on the hospital after work, I'd be happy to do. I'm not anti AR.

 

[Flymph]

Ask her if she thinks it's good for minority groups like blacks and homosexuals to rely solely for security on white conservative heteronormative males, and if she answers yes... dump her, she's secretly a Nazi.
LOL

Seriously tho, you guys should talk this over after 5 years and see if you can come to common ground before giving up. Maybe take her shooting and show her how safe it can be. If she really doesn't like "the institution" why is she heck bent on dependence for her own security. IDK tough questions yo!

The real question is, is it worth the effort or not?
If not, end it immediately... only you know the right solution.

 

[ACO]

I'm going to give you my take. If you are upset, worried, shocked, or disgusted by her politics, then you probably are not a match for each other. Relationships that survive are rooted in basic mutual world views. Petty things can differ, but base th8ngs that shape your outlook need to be closely alined. Otherwise you get grief and resentments. 5 years is a lot, but better to walk now than dig in deeper and end it anyways in 5 more years.

I'm married to a Japanese woman. That's about as anti-gun as you can get. But when I explained my philosophy and responsibility regarding being a gun owner, it turned out we had more mutual understanding that it would look on the surface. Don't get me wrong, she is still not a fan of guns, but she understands why I have them and why I feel they're necessary. Because we share mutual moral values and desire for freedom, we make it work. (Since 2005)

In my case, she may not like guns or want guns, but as she put it recently, "why are Americans so set on giving up their rights and freedom? I'm Japanese. We're not allowed to have gun. You Americans put that in our constitution. But Americas don't have that restriction. Quite the opposite, yet they strive daily to oppress themselves. It makes no sense." I had nothing I could add. She nailed it exactly.

Now if your GF hates guns but can't even respect your constitutional right to them, then you're not going to win. Because you can't change her. Thats an unwritten rule. GF can destroy and rebuild their BFs, but only a GF's GF can change her mind.

 

[The Heretic]

This is one reason why I am more or less up front with a woman about my philosophy/politics/etc.

Not that it comes up very often - I just don't meet that many women to start with, and not that many that there isn't some kind of deal breaker before we get serious. But it is worth it before getting emotionally invested to make sure you are both on the same plane so to speak, when it comes to these kinds of things.

I would rather have one of us walk away early on than get seriously involved and learn somewhere down the road that something like this is going to torpedo the relationship.

 

[tkdguy]

She was real quick to sit in judgement of law abiding person not to have an "assault weapon' and said that law abiding persons should not longer be able to buy same, but I felt that she avoided the confiscation issue to placate me. Feeling better now and wanting to stay away. I think she is going to get very more distress that I will not be calling her today nor decided not to text or email. Or, maybe tomorrow send her an email telling her I am taking time off of the relatonship do to surgery and health and recovery and may contact her in several weeks if I feel up to it and for her to go on in her life without me at present.
Thinking that her position on firearms is a very big red flag. Then again, if I am fortunate not to hear from her again that would be great, but I am thinking based on her past that she will contact me again and try to get back under my skin. I am feeling more relaxed now and sense the real potential threat she might pose if her temper goes off if she was living with me and with my firearms in the home. I think if she contacts me I am going to say that I am facing surgery next week, and I do not want any stress in my life including the memory of this Saturday's discussion. If pressed I'd tell her I'd call in about 2 weeks after my recovery.

 

[tkdguy]

She was real quick to sit in judgement of law abiding person not to have an "assault weapon' and said that law abiding persons should not longer be able to buy same, but I felt that she avoided the confiscation issue to placate me. Feeling better now and wanting to stay away. I think she is going to get very more distress that I will not be calling her today nor decided not to text or email. Or, maybe tomorrow send her an email telling her I am taking time off of the relatonship do to surgery and health and recovery and may contact her in several weeks if I feel up to it and for her to go on in her life without me at present.
Thinking that her position on firearms is a very big red flag. Then again, if I am fortunate not to hear from her again that would be great, but I am thinking based on her past that she will contact me again and try to get back under my skin. I am feeling more relaxed now and sense the real potential threat she might pose if her temper goes off if she was living with me and with my firearms in the home. I think if she contacts me I am going to say that I am facing surgery next week, and I do not want any stress in my life including the memory of this Saturday's discussion. If pressed I'd tell her I'd call in about 2 weeks after my recovery.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Ive been there my man. It NEVER gets better unless she is willing to understand, compromise or learn. If you cater to the irrational and poorly informed emotions, down the road it gets much worse.

Do yourself and your heart a favor and walk away.

It hurts, it'll be rough.. but if she is unwilling to learn or compromise on this, it wont get better down the road. Ive been there, twice. Luckily I came out both times without losing money or having any children.

Im at a point now where I refuse to deny who I am or the hobbies I enjoy for mere companionship. Far too many men simp out and trade their values for sex and companionship. I have quite a few guys I know that have blinders on, bend the knee and do as their told like good pets in order to maintain things..

At this point in my life, I have far too much self respect to ever do that to myself just to keep a woman happy.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

I used to like saying this (Rush is right!) until I realized that I admire much about Classic Liberals of old. Too bad they have been largely pushed aside by the leftists/radicals I am having trouble with now.

I agree old liberalism is more like modern day libertarianism..

liberalism today is not at all what it once was. Today its akin more to socialism/communism/fascism.. whats worse is, people today don't even realize that.

 

[tkdguy]

This is my thinking now. I am not going to call her. Likely she is going to call me to check in on the original plan to stay with me in the hospital this Friday, but I have made other plans for family coverage. Likely she will ask if "it is over" and I will tell her that she walked out the other night, and I was happy she spoke her mind on important issues and soon after I recover I will mail all of her belongings back and thank her for her time and the time we spent together. If she does not call this week to propose that she stay with me in the hospital this Friday, so much the better and then I will box up her belongings and mail them back. This latter alternative may be the best solution because it spares me of the grief of any contact with her. I will not see her nor let her in my house. She does have a key to the house which I will either request back or have the locks changed. I am not going to agree to talk to her. If she texts me I am most likely to block her texts and send her an email with thanks, etc. and will send her belongings back. Any other ideas? I am thinking that her clandestine game plan and her rabid anger just destroyed any affection I had for her in a flash.

 

[L84Cabo]

There are leftists and there are LEFTISTS. I dated a liberal for several years. The relationship ended for other reasons but not because of our political differences. Because she was what I call, a sane liberal. I realize that's a bit of an oxymoron, however, she had her beliefs as did I but she truly had tolerance and respect for other people's thoughts, positions, etc...as did I. It can work if you are both like this...but it doesn't sound like she is.

Then there was my ex fiancé. You don't know what you don't know about someone while you're dating. It's only when you start living with someone that you learn who they truly are. Much can be hidden (intentionally or unintentionally) while dating and living in separate residences.

I taught her and her two girls how to shoot. They all LOVED it! I never hid my beliefs and love of guns. So it really caught me off guard one day about a year into living with her when I got the dreaded question...

Her: Just how many guns do you own anyway?

Me: *deer in the headlights*

Me: Um...14 sweetie! (I realize those are rookie numbers)

Her: 14!!! Just what does anyone need 14 guns for anyway?

Me: *silent*

Her: Welllllllllll...I guess it's ok because you don't really spend much money on other things.

Me: Um...thanks? But I didn't ask for your permission on this.

Her: *gives me THE LOOK*

Me: *taking her hand and leading her to her closet* Sweetie! Just how many pairs of black shoes do you have anyway? Let's count them, shall we? 1...2...17...26! You have 26 pairs of black shoes! Just what does anyone need 26 pairs of black shoes for anyway

Her: *DEATH STARE!*

Me: I'm so glad we had this conversation today my love. I feel so much closer to you!

Despite how much time and emotion I had invested, I was grateful that I was learning about this now as opposed to AFTER walking down the aisle. And unfortunately, this was just the tip of the iceberg.

I wish you the best of luck and hope everything works out for you. The one piece of advice I have is don't make any rash decisions. There is no rush. Give yourself some time and make sure you're sure.

Oh, and the other takeaway from all of this, of course, is to really try to sort this stuff out early on.