Mega Problems With GF: Rabid AR 15...assault weapons.....

[308]

....start hitting on some nurses.

No, no, no....a thousand time no!!
Especially brown haired, blue eyed psych nurses who are well adapt at felating their way into the relationship as a means to keep the blissful male blind to her deep set psychological issues.

 

[The Heretic]

With having five years invested in the relationship, I would throw a Hail Mary pass and see if she can be convinced to look at things from your point...........wait.........never mind. I just remembered that I once went down this path with a girlfriend who didn't like hunting. Move on.

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The problem is - it appears to me - that she waited all this time to bring the subject up (hard to know without details on that) and then once it appeared that it upset the OP, it sounds like she was backtracking and/or playing it down. How can a person trust someone like that to be telling the truth when it appears they are trying to salvage the relationship but still hold on to their opinions?

Sure, a person has a right to hold those opinions, but others have a right to disagree, and if the opinions are in extreme conflict, then if it is on an important issue (and it seems it is for both people in this case), the only compromise is to agree to disagree.

As I have said before, gun owners are in the minority now. Gun owners who feel strongly about gun rights are a minority among gun owners. It will get harder and harder to find compatible life partners. Personally I have mostly given up (not just because of guns - although that is definitely a deal breaker for me) and I am now not even bothering to keep my eyes open for someone who is compatible, and instead just caring for my family. I am used to living alone and I have come to terms with the idea that I probably always will. I am not content, but I am happier than when I was married.

 

[WoodsPlinker]

Wow, you made it five years?

I made it three dates, she brought a bottle of wine, I brought questions.... The questions ended things pretty quick.

The next person I met was better. She shares my passions politically and in viewpoint on firearms. I married her.

But she did say "I knew when we first met you liked firearms, but I didn't know how much". It's good to hold back a little so you don't scare them off but, on the basic issue of being open minded to such activities they need to know at least a little.
Sorry to hear you made it so long, gotta be harder to deal with this after five years instead of three dates.

Best of luck with the surgery and matters of the heart.

My mother was a hippie that didn't like guns until she met my dad, but she was open minded enough to try it. And it was my mom growing up that took me to the range the most.

It's the open minded part that is important.

Also I think rural areas seem better for finding like minded individuals. I had to travel quite a ways for dates with my so but it was worth it. Some times you find a gem in the sticks.

 

[MannyGlocks]

..."but I never disclosed the ar's and mini 14 that I have... "

Why not?

Because you obviously had grave doubts about her well before the arrival of the emotional storm she recently created...and you were proven right to have them....

 

[The Heretic]

Oh, and the other takeaway from all of this, of course, is to really try to sort this stuff out early on.

Yeah, finances are what really broke up my marriage.

For that reason, before I get involved with someone, I make it clear that what I earn and what I own, is mine (legally, it will be in a trust for my daughter), I may share occupying my residence as long as the relationship lasts, but I expect a partner to be self-reliant financially - preferably stable.

If I want to spend an inordinate amount of money on something, I can and will - I won't ask permission, I won't even notify, I just will. I have lived this way for almost 40 years and if I enter a relationship that won't change. Also, I have acquired assets over those decades that nobody helped me acquire - indeed, some tried to take them away. So I would probably enter a relationship with an understanding (formal or otherwise) that those assets are mine.

Yes, a bit cold, but there it is. I've been burnt before and at 65 I don't have time to start over and I have a daughter to protect.

If someone has a problem with that, the door is right over there ...

 

[No_Regerts]

No, no, no....a thousand time no!!
Especially brown haired, blue eyed psych nurses who are well adapt at felating their way into the relationship as a means to keep the blissful male blind to her deep set psychological issues.

He's gotta practice somewhere!

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

JFK was a liberal. He wouldn't even recognize what the Democratic Party has become...because it's full blown Leftism.

Exactly.

 

[AMT]

I read your original post. I have not read through all 5 pages of responses, but I feel I should voice my 2-cents (maybe echoing some other responses?).

She hid this from you for 5 years. Her absolute hate and disgust for everything that you agree with.

You should be afraid of the red flag laws with her.

Either you will change, because she will make you. Or, keep your pride, feelings, beliefs and press on with life without her.

That (your original post) will NOT be the last time that happens if she remains in your life. You cannot "live a life together" and it not be "discussed" or an "issue" between you two.

Good luck with your choice to stay with her or end the relationship. Glad this came to fruition when it did (prior to you changing your will)!

I would rather be alone (at ANY age) than completely change everything about me for someone I am dating. There are MANY more fishes in the sea.

 

[slimmer13]

All I know is that if I ever end up single again, I'll die that way. I'll move way out to BFE and my house will reek of hoppes and steak.

Going through all this and coming to an understanding with each other on politics, finances, etc takes years of effort and you're never really done. I can't see myself doing it again.

 

[WAYNO]

I am thinking that later today, if I do not hear from her with something constructive, I will send her an email after 3 pm telling her that I may get back to her in a two weeks after my surgery, and in the mean time if she needs anything from the house then to let me know and I can deliver to her apartment. She was under a lot of self pressure to move in here or move back to Texas because she is unemployed and her lease notice to renew is due at the end of October. What a mega screw up for her and me but for the best. I had never seen the rabid side of her political personality. Just awful.

You're in denial. Love does these things. I think you're looking for support and rationalization of why you should kiss and make up.

And from this day forward, I would be fearful of RED FLAG accusations.

My boy is also in a bad relationship. He supported her and she lived with him. But on one income, life was not exciting. She ended the relationship, but he wont let go. And as long as he's still spending his money on her, she lets him be within arms reach. He's also heartbroken and in total denial.

Run and don't look back! My boy doesn't listen either.

She reminded me that at my age of a very young looking 71 year old, that I will never find a replacement for someone who loves me as much as she does. Likely so?

Thanks.

Really? She's using this card on you? And you're considering it? Wow.

 

[slimmer13]

They can come around though. My wife was slightly left of center and wouldn't go anywhere with me if I was carrying. Now she votes pretty much with me, and prefers I carry everywhere I legally can and even got some training.

Like I said, it's a huge PIA though and we were in our 20's when we met. Sounds like the OP and her is a little older and probably set in their ways.

 

[Baseacegoku]

She reminded me that at my age of a very young looking 71 year old, that I will never find a replacement for someone who loves me as much as she does. Likely so?

I highly doubt that she is correct in this.

 

[teflon6string]

After 5 years and her nearly moving in to my home in the next 2 months, the topic of the leftist's anti-america platform came up over dinner. The discussion evolved into the far left's goal to dismantle the 2nd A and her position that all "all assault weapons" should not be sold to civilians. Although he had her facts totally wrong, I was in a state of shock over her profound anger over the 'assault rifle' issue. I was so scared of her anger on the issue that I did not mention that I had several. Her anger over the weapons issue was one thing, but what emerged was her livid anger over the "system, the rich, Trump, etc.". In previous discussion on politics I have almost always avoided discussion, thinking that her democratic ideas was moderate, but now I think she is much more left leaning and rabid. She now raised the issue that her moving in could be deal breaker over my conservative politics and pro-gun assault firearms issues.
I was stone cold over her anti-gun assault gun issue although she was not anti-gun on other firearms; so she said.
So, she said that perhaps we should not stay the night together and I told her to do what she wants to do. She left my home very politely, wanted to stay but she clearly saw my stone cold emotions for her and not at all attractions for her and he rapport was destroyed between us. She left about 9 pm. I warned her politely that I thought that her leaving that evening was a very bad idea; now thinking that if she was living here in the future, that she would bolt if things get difficult. She was going to live her rent free but for food and utility costs.

I was royally disgusted with her last night and still am. I am thinking now that she harbored this profound anger over the years, about firearms and the system that there was another side of her personality that caused me to think that my attraction was to somebody else and not this rabid democrat or leftist thinker.

I am disgusted this morning thinking that the 5 year relationship is best left alone and ended. I am looking at some significant surgery late next week, now, thinking I do not want her in my life, although she desired to continue the relationship regardless, stay with me in the hosptial, now thinking I do not want her there; and I did not express any desire to end the relationship, but my gut tells me that her rabid side is very threatening, and thinking of potential red flag laws, that she does not think clearly, and is anti and she now can not be trusted due to the emergence of her clandestine rabid anti-system politics. Thinking now that she would vote to take my gun rights away. She says that she would respect my firearms interests, hunting lifestyle, and politics and that we should not talk about these matters. But, I do not think I can trust her. She reminded me that at my age of a very young looking 71 year old, that I will never find a replacement for someone who loves me as much as she does. Likely so?
I am just disgusted with her clandestine anger over my type of beliefs, and a mega change in my perception that my image of her personality has now changed radically for the worse. My gut is so upset that I have not intent to call her and given the very heated discussion last night I do not want to talk to her. I feel like my love and attraction for her has gone down the drain. I was going to change my will shortly and considerations were to put her in it, but now, that consideration is off the table completely. I see no need to have her move into my home, essentially rent free; and have her potentially vote to take my rights away.
I have son close by who can take care of me during and following the hospital care, and do not want her in my life today or thinking this entire week before the surgery. Any ideas?
Thanks.

I think John Lennon said, "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." Invariably (in my experience) right at crunch time.

This happens at the moment when you could certainly use some help with basic survival needs - at least for awhile. BTW, I hope your medical situation proceeds smoothly and you heal quickly.

It's possible that your GF (when/wherever she was indoctrinated to offer such a toxic response), can realistically acknowledge her need for some help with basic survival needs - at least for awhile. This regardless of any future romantic relationship.

However things got to this point, the two of you have managed to alienate the crap out of each other over something far deeper than what color to paint the bathroom. And you'll both need to reconcile it. Love/lust can be blind, and I suspect there are countless additional disconnects lurking.

In the mean time, it might just come down to an adult agreement and a handshake. A pact that both of you are willing to provide each other some help with basic survival needs - at least for awhile.

It'll depend upon her sense of honor to follow through with the agreement, perhaps until a given date, or specific stage of recovery. Maybe give that some serious thought and consider the likelihood of her pulling a sudden switcheroo mid-process and leaving you hanging.

Again, I wish you a safe, complete, speedy recovery.

 

[billdeserthills]

I am thinking that later today, if I do not hear from her with something constructive, I will send her an email after 3 pm telling her that I may get back to her in a two weeks after my surgery, and in the mean time if she needs anything from the house then to let me know and I can deliver to her apartment. She was under a lot of self pressure to move in here or move back to Texas because she is unemployed and her lease notice to renew is due at the end of October. What a mega screw up for her and me but for the best. I had never seen the rabid side of her political personality. Just awful.

Sounds to me like she needs you more than you need another blood sucking parasite--Reminds me of my ex-fiance telling me I was gonna die a lonely old man--

I guess she was willing to die with me when I was ready?

 

[Aero Denezol]

Take heart, these are hard days for all of us my brothers.

Sometimes I feel like my wife would like to walk back her support of my gun hobby, but it's too late. People already know me as the friendly gun nut husband and embarrassing questions would be asked. Unfortunately, she is under a lot of pressure from our daughters and from the social media to conform, because she wants to feel young and up on things. There is a war going on for the soul of my marriage.

As you consider the authoritarian Marxist propoganda circus, and their Hollywood marionettes, it is very important to understand Intersectionality. Intersectionality, a philosophical construct which comes from Columbia University, is in simplest terms, the coalition of the aggrieved. The anti-gun lobby can now bring dozens of different "victim" groups to bear on us, collectively. This is why the social pressure against us is now much greater than in recent years.

 

[WAYNO]

The manipulating the left is capable of is absolutely sickening, at the expense of destroying families and other relationships.

My sister...she's 70 and I'm not far behind. She's pretty far left, and I'm not. I stay away from politics with her. We've been very close our whole life.

A year ago our families were on vacation together, and she decided it was the perfect time to impress on me how wrong my views are, including firearms ownership. I suggested that religion and politics is the great divider of friends and families, so let's drop it. She reluctantly agreed, but then got a couple final jabs in. And I reminded her, my side is never allowed an opinion, and even til the end, the leftists will insist on the last words and insults.

She's not spoken one word with me since. A whole year.

That's how deep this socialist sickness has become.

 

[bbbass]

Sounds to me like she needs you more than you need another blood sucking parasite--Reminds me of my ex-fiance

When I was 23 I met a 28yr old gal that had two kids. She could cook like wow! And was a tiger in bed. Two weeks later I moved in... two weeks after that she quit her job. Told me that she thought Moms should stay home with the kids... hard to disagree with that. I married her.

I lived the next 10yrs in misery! It was the worst mistake I made in my entire life. I stayed for the kids... Their mom became a drunk and there was nobody else to take care of them. The affairs were many on each side. She left me for a guy that had more $$$.

After the split, she found guy after guy to move in and support her and her kids. I found out later that there was physical and sexual abuse (of the kids). It continued until she no longer had the looks to get new guys.

The thing I didn't realize until it was too late, was that she was always that way... I was just sucker #1!!!

 

[bbbass]

She's not spoken one word with me since. A whole year.

That's how deep this socialist sickness has become.

I have (had) friends that this has happened with. I'm very eclectic about my collection of friends, so having liberal friends is not unusual for me because I'm very accepting of different viewpoints. But some friends went hard left and then at some point became aggressive/hateful/personal. When they refused to stop the nasty comments, I dropped them. Because some things are that important. The current divide is about important things that go beyond the usual politics.

 

[nehalemguy]

It just occurred to me..... we need pics.

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[308]

It just occurred to me..... we need pics.

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