Just registered as a Dem for the first time...

[vvt4me]

I went the opposite way and change from Democrat to Republican.

I would take Bernie over Hillary any day, although either one would be a disaster.

I don't like the idea of switching parties just to vote in the primary in order to nominate
the less desirable candidate. I would not like it if a Democrat did it to the Republican
primary either. Let each party determine who they want their candidate to be.

No. No. No. The time for fair fighting and civility is over. If you can't even advocate switching parties to avert disaster or keep damage at an absolute minimum, then you shouldn't call yourself a defender of civil rights. The time to fight underhanded and dirty is NOW. The vermin that wish to disarm you and make us permanently subservient are doing much worse. FIGHT.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

I went the opposite way and change from Democrat to Republican.

I would take Bernie over Hillary any day, although either one would be a disaster.

I don't like the idea of switching parties just to vote in the primary in order to nominate
the less desirable candidate. I would not like it if a Democrat did it to the Republican
primary either. Let each party determine who they want their candidate to be.

its no different than people who have NEVER voted their entire lives decide to vote for obama because he's black. time to fight fire with fire.
i see your point though, integrity is an important value to me and i dont think I personally would do that, but will not judge anyone who does. All i know is i cannot take anymore of this PC BS.

 

[dude23]

Some Conservatives and Republicans have suggested Joining the Dem Party to pick the least anti-gun amongst them as Republicans are fading away fast.

It's the only way to get some representation against the Progs.

I have never had a Party affiliation but have mostly voted R.
Here in Oregon I always vote R until some balance is restored.
I'll be Voting at least one more time, maybe two before I leave this State.

I think now there's a good chance for a split from both major parties to form a third with a viable opportunity to win. In order to get the most voters from either side as well as previous non-voters & independents it should be a that stands for unflinching defense of all civil rights, but no special treatment - basically a "I'll leave you alone, if you leave me alone" party.

To be realistic it should be a slow transition back to limited government, self reliance, low taxes, etc. with the acknowledgement that it's not perfect, but it's what will be acceptable by the majority, slowly chipping away in the other direction.

Of course if you want a truly limited government that will only do the bare minimum, there's already a candidate for you - http://earloftaint.com/2016/01/16/just-a-trial-balloon-does-it-resonate/

 

[CoastRange57]

Let's see, we need a strategy for dealing with underhanded, cheating politicians that have stunk-up our political process,...
And you're decrying using their own tactics against them?

I got news for you bud, there are no "moral victories" when you're forced to watch your state get flushed down the crapper by deranged, utopia-peddling pols funded by out of state interests.

I admire bakersman345 moral and ethical standing on this one and agree somewhat. I also realize that the liberal agenda is going to be the complete downfall of this great nation. It is not going to happen overnight, but Obungler has advanced the liberal agenda more in his 8 years in office than all the other libtards in the last 20 years. It will be an expotential decline that is rolling hard.

To that end, the good of the Republic and its people has to be served at the ballot box, and if the system that has been created can be used to slow the advance of the socialist agenda and the moral bankruptcy that comes from Sanders, Cliton, and this immoral cabal tha runs Oregon, then so be it done.

 

[CoastRange57]

To be realistic it should be a slow transition back to limited government, self reliance, low taxes, etc. with the acknowledgement that it's not perfect, but it's what will be acceptable by the majority, slowly chipping away in the other direction.

Will this be before or after the Revolution ?

You think our Forefathers had a hard time throwing off King George and crown rule, our sh*t is way more screwed up now.

 

[CoastRange57]

On the other hand the Republicans are doing there best to make sure they put a nutjob at the head of the pack as well. Trump? He is probably the most qualified to be president but his personality is not presidential. He is arrogant, loves himself to the point of true narcissism. He is a disaster waiting to happen.

But this country might be ready for a "nut job" conservative. To me as a conservative that is probably a bit more left than the Bible thumping hard right, Trump represents everything that the hard right does not and can leave all the abortion and religious BS aside to concentrate on what is really f up in this country. I think he will pull in some votes that Cruz, who is likely the next closest contender might lose.

Putting Trump up against Billary and Comrade Bernie, completely eliminates the nut job factor. Those two are so beyond crazy. The Republicans could put up a goat for President, and if that Republican / conservative goat could bring some sanity to the nation, I will vote for it before I would ever vote for Billary, Sanders, Gore, Bidet or any of those others.

As far as Presidential personalities go, Shillary and Comrade Bernie are far from it.

This country needs a John F Kennedy and Ronald Regan now more than ever.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

BLOOBERG is getting in!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...pedent-2016-white-house-bid.html?intcmp=hpbt2

 

[USAF Medic]

Trump is going to be the next president. And I bet the very first thing he does is order a new AF1 with an all tan leather interior.

 

[bakersman345]

Let me guess: Yours is one of the few that doesn't...

I've heard "insanity" defined as "Doing the exact same thing over and over again and expecting different results." I've been registered as an Independent or Republican all my life, and I've lived in Oregon all my life. For the past 'x' number of years, I've voted in the Republican primary and dependably voted Republican in the General Election. During that time, I've watched the Oregon Legislature and Democratic candidates for POTUS become increasingly far-left, so it's time to switch strategies. As long as I continue to support a conservative candidate in the General Election, what do I have to lose?

-my butthole stinks aplenty---
The only vote we get that counts in our states (wa/or) is the primary where will have a chance to pick the best candidate for our beliefs or our benifit. 10:1 says Bernie gets the nod from oregon for sure anyway so your pissing away both your votes.
I understand your position, but I wouldn't do it that way. Good luck. like I said whatever you think is going to make you happy you should do it. God bless America.

-doesn't matter cause hildabeast is going to be the next president and we will be bubbleguming about how to keep congress in our favor. Bla bla

 

[Defense Minister]

But this country might be ready for a "nut job" conservative. To me as a conservative that is probably a bit more left than the Bible thumping hard right, Trump represents everything that the hard right does not and can leave all the abortion and religious BS aside to concentrate on what is really f up in this country.

This country needs a John F Kennedy and Ronald Regan now more than ever.

While traditional Christian values are important to me and some conservative voters, it's not like we want an official state religion. Jesus didn't force anyone to love Him, so neither should we try to force people to love Him. I'm all for religious liberty, with one exception. I'll let you guess what that is...

What appeals to me about Trump is that he isn't a career politician. He doesn't seem to be in it just to tow the usual party line and continue with the current, self-destructive politics. He sees problems in this country that he is tired of and wants to apply the logic and reason that should accompany leaders of any sovereign nation to find answers. I think he has a decent shot at the White House, but I just can't see any moderate Democrats giving him their vote even if Hillary ends up on their party's ticket. Hence the strategy I'm taking for the primaries.

I would also agree that the last good president we had was Ronald Reagan, although none of them are perfect.

 

[PaulB47]

This is a game that is not worth playing.

I considered such dodges myself a while back, but then I came to my senses. The R's are just as bought off as the D's are. They are just a little less honest about it.

To me the thing to do is withdraw your sanction. Stop voting. Let the chips fall where they may, and prepare for the coming revolution. That is the area where your efforts can actually pay off, unlike the voting game.

 

[skeezix]

So, is there a time limit as to how long you have to remain a "democrat"?

 

[skeezix]

The only vote we get that counts in our states (wa/or) is the primary where will have a chance to pick the best candidate for our beliefs or our benifit. 10:1 says Bernie gets the nod from oregon for sure anyway so your pissing away both your votes.
I understand your position, but I wouldn't do it that way. Good luck.

If you're registered as 'Independent' you don't have any votes to "piss away". All you can vote on are ballot measures and local stuff.

 

[bakersman345]

In washington we don't need to declare a party affiliation, we are one of those "open" election states. And locally it is often two democrats.

 

[nehalemguy]

In washington we don't need to declare a party affiliation, we are one of those "open" election states. And locally it is often two democrats.

In 2014, Measure 90 was put on the ballot here in Oregon. It would have created an open primary election system had it passed. Voters rejected it by a 70/30 margin., wisely IMO.

 

[Captn Herb]

Go back to basics. Study your enemy. Learn what makes him successful. Use it against him. Required reading: Saul Alinsky's " Rules for Radicals". Hillary did her thesis on him (he even offered her a job). Obama the community organizer studied him - Rules is the Bible of his administration. All of the lefties know his rules by heart...that's why when their lips move - they lie ( it' one of the rules). Don't buy it new, get a used copy- and READ it !

 

[brentb636]

Here in Michigan , we can vote either primary, but not both. I generally vote Democrat, but I want John Kasich of Ohio as the Republican candidate. He's moderate enough to draw some independent voters. Regardless, at least he's not crazy , like Cruz and Trump. I could vote for Kasich in a general election, too. Hillary is just irritating !

 

[Toolman]

I'm as conservative as they come, but if the Democrats do win the presidency again, and there's at least a decent chance they will, I would pick Bernie Sanders a million times over Hillary Clinton. Therefore, I just registered as a Democrat for the first time in my 46 year long life in order to vote in their primary.

Anyone else considering this?

P.S. To keep this firearm-related, my motivation is to elect the least anti-gun candidate.

Nope, I'd never vote for any Democrat and though I am registered as an independent, I am not a big fan or supporter of any candidate on the GOP side of the aisle either. Once again it's going to come down to picking the lesser of the evils. However, I do not agree with your assessment that the Democrats have the advantage or that Bernie is any less Gun control than Hillary.

Bernie is a known democratic socialist/Communist, who follows the communist party rules of big government control of the people, through oppression and disarming citizens.

I'd rather vote for a Republican than have a worse president that Obama in the white house. But, alas America will get the leader it deserves, the last time Americans chose the more evil presidential candidate and look where we are today.

Just my two cents...

 

[Toolman]

John Kerry, Al Gore

Most recently Bloomberg is checking into a POTUS run

 

[best defense]

I registered as a Democrat years ago. Never voted for Clinton, never voted for Obama.

I really have not found any politician that I like a lot, or at least not one who ever ran in the general election.
Most of my friends tell me that I am conservative, but I think I am liberal. I don't give a hoot what the gay population does. I think we should start something like Truman did and establish work programs for people who are homeless. (CCC, WPA, and NRA) No, that is not the National Rifle Association. As long as they are working, they can get food and housing and free child care. Yes, mothers of small children can contribute too if they want to eat and get housing and clothing. There could be a small wage included in that. Free birth control could be included to help them provide for the children they already have without adding another mouth to feed.

I would do everything I could to keep religion out of politics. I don't care what religion you are, I don't think it is appropriate to shove it down everyone else's throat. If I don't want to worship God the same way you do, that's my business, not yours.

I think everyone should be required to do two years of government service before they are allowed to vote. Not necessarily in the military, but military service would count the same as other service.

I think that people on welfare should have to take drug tests before they can get a welfare check.
Better yet, put them in a work program and eliminate welfare.

I think that people who sell drugs to children should get the most severe penalty possible, but that does not include death. If they are dead there is nothing more we can do to them. I could get real creative with what I could do to them.