Just in, new mass shooting in another school today, 14 possibly dead 2 children confirmed dead... :(

[Aero Denezol]

Hm. What do you call prison labor/chain gangs and the like?
13th Amendment Sec 1 Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.


Things that makes one go hmm.

I think he referring to the Antebellum South.

 

[Knobgoblin]

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Another example of: what stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun. Not some stupid sign that says, "no weapons allowed."

Also another example of someone using common sense and violence of action instead of running the play that some toad in admin wrote.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I wonder how many school shootings would occur if every school had a trained police officer on site, and his/her primary duty station is near the only publicly accessible entrance.

Each homeless person in Portland costs the city around $200,000-$300,000 per year. Maybe devote some of that $ to effective law enforcement instead of wasting it like they are doing now.

 

[arakboss]

Sometimes a dog who has shown no signs of past aggression snaps and kills somebody. We can't expect to filter out all the gun buyers that might snap one day. And unless you want more gun control in the form of red flag laws, expanded background checks, etc, we are just going to have to accept that these shootings will happen. Humans are complicated beings living in a complicated world. We can't expect them to all behave as we would want them to. Liberty comes with risk.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Thus far, I see and hear the calls for gun control taking a back seat. Dems and their puppet media have instantly invested this windfall of political capital into calls to run their traditional rivals out of office. "3 tragedies in the recent weeks " means it's "time to do something ". Pandering to the base , while trying to terrify middle of the road voters into believing that 2a supporters lawmakers want all schoolchildren dead.
Politics are disgusting.

 

[VanceInWA]

In the immediate wake of tragedies like Buffalo and Uvalde, the anti-gun left will predictably use the spilling of blood to emotionally call for gun control. Their singular focus is to concentrate all that emotional reaction on the gun, not the shooter.

Let me be blunt: focusing on the gun is not just wrong, it is stupid.

Be it an individual or a group, people harboring an evil intent to kill will kill. The evil resides in the killer, not the tool they use.

History clearly shows that evil does not need a gun to accomplish the mass killing of innocents. Let's prove that point with just a few specific examples where more people were killed than in the Sandy Hook, Buffalo, or Uvalde tragedies. And let's be even more specific by limiting our examples just to the United States of America:

• Obviously, the first example has to be 9/11 and the killing of 2,958 innocents with airplanes. Not a single shot fired.
• The Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 killed 169 people. Not a single shot fired.
• Thomas G. Doty bought a couple large insurance policies and then committed suicide by bringing down Continental Airlines flight 11 with dynamite in 1962. 45 people killed. Not a single shot fired.
• Going all the way back to 1782 there was the Gnadenhutten Massacre, a particularly evil stain on American history perpetrated by the Pennsylvania Militia. Lenape and Mohican Indians who were converted Christians and dedicated to a pacifist life, posing no threat to anyone, were systematically led into "killing houses" where Pennsylvania Militiamen killed them with mallets, knives, or axes. A total of 96 men, women, and children, including infants, were killed in this evil. Not a single shot fired.
• And don't believe the emotional diatribe that Buffalo, Uvalde, or Sandy Hook are the worst when it comes to school killings. That infamy goes to Bath Township School in Michigan when Andrew Kehoe, upset about not being elected School Treasurer, bombed the school killing 38 children, six adults, and another 58 injured in 1927. Not a single shot fired.

There are many other examples, but you get the drift. And it appears rifles were used in the Uvalde tragedy. According to the FBI, deaths using knives kill far more people in the United States every year than deaths using rifles. Latest statistics are from 2019, when rifles were used in 364 killings, but knives were used in 1,476 killings. Same can be said of fists/feet to kill (600 deaths), blunt objects like clubs and hammers (397 deaths), and other miscellaneous objects that were not firearms (840 deaths).

Will any of this statistical reality stop Biden and his extreme left from leveraging the blood of children to push Americans' emotions for more gun control? Of course not. Because this is about politics, not reality. There is an election coming in November and Democrats are set to be trounced, so they will leverage the blood of children, or any other death, just for the political points they can score. Pretty sick that, evil in its own right, but we've seen their heartless modus operandi many times before...

 

[Hueco]

This is true as well and I'm not suggesting banning the games. I'm just saying that it is plausible that these types of games had an effect.

The horse goes before the cart, not behind it.

It's more plausible that disturbed people would seek out certain activities to sate their need - those being violent video games - than it is for normal people to become disturbed through playing a violent video game.

100 years ago the same dude would be torture killing the neighborhood cats. How many hunters become such disturbed people through the act of hunting?

The question remains, how did someone with very little money and resources afford to buy such expensive guns, and how is it that they were a manufacturer that happen to have governmental contracts?
Or am I over reaching in this and going into the relm of conspiracy?
I know it's sheer coincidence because any legally able person can buy these firearms. But if you have taken any psychology classes you could see how an individual such as this could easily be manipulated or "recruited" without even realizing that's what's happening. Just a tiny little push in a certain direction is all that it would take for a person already on the edge.

If it comes out that he used Grandma's credit cards, there will be hell to pay to the gun store that sold the guns.

 

[Hueco]

In the immediate wake of tragedies like Buffalo and Uvalde, the anti-gun left will predictably use the spilling of blood to emotionally call for gun control. Their singular focus is to concentrate all that emotional reaction on the gun, not the shooter.

Let me be blunt: focusing on the gun is not just wrong, it is stupid.

Be it an individual or a group, people harboring an evil intent to kill will kill. The evil resides in the killer, not the tool they use.

History clearly shows that evil does not need a gun to accomplish the mass killing of innocents. Let's prove that point with just a few specific examples where more people were killed than in the Sandy Hook, Buffalo, or Uvalde tragedies. And let's be even more specific by limiting our examples just to the United States of America:

• Obviously, the first example has to be 9/11 and the killing of 2,958 innocents with airplanes. Not a single shot fired.
• The Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 killed 169 people. Not a single shot fired.
• Thomas G. Doty bought a couple large insurance policies and then committed suicide by bringing down Continental Airlines flight 11 with dynamite in 1962. 45 people killed. Not a single shot fired.
• Going all the way back to 1782 there was the Gnadenhutten Massacre, a particularly evil stain on American history perpetrated by the Pennsylvania Militia. Lenape and Mohican Indians who were converted Christians and dedicated to a pacifist life, posing no threat to anyone, were systematically led into "killing houses" where Pennsylvania Militiamen killed them with mallets, knives, or axes. A total of 96 men, women, and children, including infants, were killed in this evil. Not a single shot fired.
• And don't believe the emotional diatribe that Buffalo, Uvalde, or Sandy Hook are the worst when it comes to school killings. That infamy goes to Bath Township School in Michigan when Andrew Kehoe, upset about not being elected School Treasurer, bombed the school killing 38 children, six adults, and another 58 injured in 1927. Not a single shot fired.

There are many other examples, but you get the drift. And it appears rifles were used in the Uvalde tragedy. According to the FBI, deaths using knives kill far more people in the United States every year than deaths using rifles. Latest statistics are from 2019, when rifles were used in 364 killings, but knives were used in 1,476 killings. Same can be said of fists/feet to kill (600 deaths), blunt objects like clubs and hammers (397 deaths), and other miscellaneous objects that were not firearms (840 deaths).

Will any of this statistical reality stop Biden and his extreme left from leveraging the blood of children to push Americans' emotions for more gun control? Of course not. Because this is about politics, not reality. There is an election coming in November and Democrats are set to be trounced, so they will leverage the blood of children, or any other death, just for the political points they can score. Pretty sick that, evil in its own right, but we've seen their heartless modus operandi many times before...

Let's not pretend that bathing in the warm blood of the victims for political power is a single party phenomenon.

 

[RobMa]

I know it's Tucker but,

 

[bkroger86]

Dana Loesch had some interesting points this morning about the root cause of this shooting and IMO a great many others. Let's see if any of this gets traction?

1) How did this murderer get into the school?
2) What security did this school have and how can we protect schools like we protect our concerts, banks, museums?
3) WHERE WERE HIS PARENTS AND THE ADULTS IN HIS LIFE?
4) How did he buy a handgun?
5) Did he pass a background check?
6) No one in his house saw what was going on?

I'm almost as sickened about politicians using this to push political agendas as I am over the children and the families, friends, and other loved ones.

1) "The shooter entered the school through a south entrance in the newer part of the building and barricaded himself in a classroom where he shot at students and teachers, Olivarez said in an interview. He said investigators were still unsure how the gunman got through the school doors, which were supposed to be locked, or how long he was inside before he started firing."

2) They can hire a security guard, like that grocery store in Buffalo did. Or we could post armed guards with metal detectors at each entrance, and razor wire fencing on the perimeter. Or something in-between. Going to be expensive though, adding all that state and local government payroll. Whoever we hire needs to be wearing body armor and carrying a rifle; the Buffalo security guard (and any CCW for that matter) were outgunned easily.

3) He shot them too (grandmother).

4) He bought a rifle.

5) 18 years old with no criminal history = easy pass. Just like Buffalo.

6) Buffalo and Uvalde show that regardless of state (Texas or New York) or background (Caucasian or Latino) or home life (suburban family with siblings or rural family with only child), parents can miss the signs or teens can be very good at hiding the signs.

 

[American123]

Also another example of someone using common sense and violence of action instead of running the play that some toad in admin wrote.

Like the Broward coward.

Also good to note, guy was shot in the process, but still prevailed and won.

 

[PORSCHE928S4]

Doesn't matter if he has a Spanish name, he looks white enough to fit their agenda.

All he has to do is identify as white that is how it works now !

 

[tac]

Gonna be a huge push for assault weapons ban now methinks. Look at the restrictions passed in England after mass shootings as an example:
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There were NO restrictions passed in England in 1997. There WERE total bans of ALL centre-fire cartridge-firing handguns by an outgoing government and all rimfire handguns by the incoming government THROUGHOUT the entire UK - England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Northern Ireland, where, amazingly, given the almost thirty-year history of the 'Troubles' with almost 4000 people dead, told the Westminster government to go **ss up a rope, since not a single one of the many murders committed there over the years had been carried out by a person using a LEGALLY-owned handgun.

The person who killed sixteen kids and their teacher in Dunblane was in legal possession of his guns, thanks to a pedophile-friendly chief of police who 'resigned' shortly afterwards.

There were, in any case, 'only' 55,000 handgun shooters on mainland UK, with just over 103,000 legally-owned handguns, but it cost the government over £100,000,000 of tax-payers money to compensate us. It also cost that government, and every successive government, the trust of the ordinary Joe who felt back then, and still does, that he/she/we got cr*pp*d on and made into scapegoats for the inadequacies of the then-in-place system of certification.

Hungerford cost EVERYBODY their semi-auto centre-fire rifles and carbines, and place certain shotguns into the Section 1 [quite hard to get for most people] firearms category.

 

[RobMa]

 

[Rkangel]

First and foremost, this is a tragedy for all the families who lost loved ones. This is a time for grieving.

Second, anti-gunners will predictably try to leverage the blood of those killed children to call for more gun control measures. That's pretty sick, but they pursue that sickness ever time...

Third, I don't think it's any accident that both the shooter in Buffalo and the shooter in Uvalde were 18 years old. That age group was subjected to two years of forced isolation and social disconnection during its most difficult adolescent development period. I believe those two years of extreme Covid response policies psychologically damaged that age group, and not only is nobody doing a damned thing about it, but the decision makers who harmed those children won't even acknowledge the damage they've done. I fully expect that age group to be a problem for years to come...

2 years of captive social engineering, psychological manipulation, and force-fed depraved agendas. There is a sick and evil power behind these events, their timing, and the politics. We are in for a bumpy road ahead.

 

[RobMa]

2 years of captive social engineering, psychological manipulation, and force-fed depraved agendas. There is a sick and evil power behind these events, their timing, and the politics. We are in for a bumpy road ahead.

Yea, it is called the midterms...

 

[Aero Denezol]

2 years of captive social engineering, psychological manipulation, and force-fed depraved agendas. There is a sick and evil power behind these events, their timing, and the politics. We are in for a bumpy road ahead.

The timing of everything is interesting isn't it.. We had a leaked draft opinion on Roe v Wade, a racially motivated mass shooting at a grocery store, and now another school is hit by a mass shooter. It's almost as if someone wants to drive this country to self-destruct. I don't know who that might be. But it does seem a lot like 5th Gen Warfare.

 

[nwslopoke]

1) "The shooter entered the school through a south entrance in the newer part of the building and barricaded himself in a classroom where he shot at students and teachers, Olivarez said in an interview. He said investigators were still unsure how the gunman got through the school doors, which were supposed to be locked, or how long he was inside before he started firing."

2) They can hire a security guard, like that grocery store in Buffalo did. Or we could post armed guards with metal detectors at each entrance, and razor wire fencing on the perimeter. Or something in-between. Going to be expensive though, adding all that state and local government payroll. Whoever we hire needs to be wearing body armor and carrying a rifle; the Buffalo security guard (and any CCW for that matter) were outgunned easily.

3) He shot them too (grandmother).

4) He bought a rifle.

5) 18 years old with no criminal history = easy pass. Just like Buffalo.

6) Buffalo and Uvalde show that regardless of state (Texas or New York) or background (Caucasian or Latino) or home life (suburban family with siblings or rural family with only child), parents can miss the signs or teens can be very good at hiding the signs.

Local new reporting he may have been a felon around 3 min mark

 

[bkroger86]

Local new reporting he may have been a felon around 3 min mark

Wow, if true then this could escalate quickly. If he was a felon and an FFL sold him the guns, they're toast. If he was a felon and he bought them private party, UBC here we come!

 

[rdb241]