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I don't think PDX politicians care much about that type of thing these days. Socialism isn't much concerned with the woes of the capitalist enterprises.
No budget,no job. It takes time but they absolutely do understand a budget. And just so I am clear when saying not going there and spending my hard earned money I of course will with the members of NWF! ;)
 
It would be interesting to see the unedited version of the video, and see if it turns the narrative,
I bet it would show the guys was harrasered for far longer than this 15 second clip.

as an armed citizen, I would not pull my weapon unless I intended to use it, but than again I don't put my self in those situation in the first place,

Portland and it's politics are a shirt hole in my opinion, and I simply do not partake,

i will remain in the west subherbs until next summer when I leave oregon.

Oregon was a beautiful place that provided the path to all my dreams and wants in life, when I cam here 20 years ago, and now I can't stand it, ( Portland proper, and the states government)

I tell my sons, if the police detained you, just comply, request your attorney, and we can sort out what ever it is you are detained for.

I think in any of these case that have torn our nation apart, If the "victim" would have complied, they would be a live today.

form those who think it's a violation of their rights to have to comply, you should have it put on your tombstone, that although you lie there dead, " I was with in my rights"

and the rest of us will live on

In the 70s my father told me when interfacing with the police to be polite. Say yes sir, no sir, and keep my hands on the wheel. Have my wallet on the dashboard by the time the officer got to the window. Comply with instructions and keep my hands in plain sight, don't reach for anything without permission. I asked him what the big deal was, he told me that people that look me die all the time, and if I was ever arrested, to shut my mouth and call him with my phone call. We could sort it out later,, but not if I was dead.

He was being wise, I have followed his instructions and I am still walking around to pass it on to my sons. In fact it got put to the test over in Custer SD shortly after that conversation. I did call him collect from the jail. He did straighten it out with the shift Sargent, and I was released without being charged. I hadn't done anything wrong, but if I had acted the fool it wouldn't have had that ending.
 
No budget,no job. It takes time but they absolutely do understand a budget. And just so I am clear when saying not going there and spending my hard earned money I of course will with the members of NWF! ;)
Unfortunately the commissioners and other elected officials will be the last to lose their jobs. Many rundown, violent and crime ridden cities across this nation have continued to be run by the same parties. I don't understand it but that seems to be the way it works. Look at what the pols ran on. It wasn't about making businesses flourish.
 
"BLM/Antifa" toting open carry AR's trying to impede and harass/intimidate citizens at intersections.
Yes. War has begun. Insurgents acting like they have no consequences from authorities nor fear of legal complications of their actions.
Wake up people. City council and police are no longer in control. And if they are - then 'law abiding citizens' are their enemy.



This is Portland now.

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War has begun. Insurgents acting like they have no consequences from authorities nor fear of legal complications of their actions.
Unfortunately this seems to be the case and the following is the disturbing part:
Police made no arrests.
It's as though the 'system' is waiting for something to happen so when it does they can act on it, possibly with some 'contingencies' that MAY already be planned and prepared for but thats just a guess.
 
The YT channel, Salty Cracker, referred to Portland as, White Somalia, after this week. Pointing out, this was on a Thursday. A few weeks back in Portland another channel showed a park and adjoining intersection being set up for an ambush. The Conservative Preacher, I belive is the channels name.
 
Unfortunately this seems to be the case and the following is the disturbing part:

It's as though the 'system' is waiting for something to happen so when it does they can act on it, possibly with some 'contingencies' that MAY already be planned and prepared for but thats just a guess.

That's not just a guess.
That's a literal page from the playbook.
 
Some of the old graybeards here might recall the race riots of the 1960s and the 1970s, complete with bombings by Weather Underground. Seems my dad recalls that it was much worse back then, coupled with anti-Vietnam protests and massive politicial violence, not just assassinations but political violence in the riots and protests. Some other members here might recall the North Ireland time of troubles and the bombings and such by IRA terrorists... and yet... neither of these events devolved into full blown civil wars. Right now the BLM/Antifa/etc are confined to certain cities and locations; not at the point where they're causing stuff to pop off out everywhere, not at the point where there are coordinated attacks on supplies, farms, "the wealthy", or public freeways/highways outside the cities.
 
Unfortunately the commissioners and other elected officials will be the last to lose their jobs. Many rundown, violent and crime ridden cities across this nation have continued to be run by the same parties. I don't understand it but that seems to be the way it works. Look at what the pols ran on. It wasn't about making businesses flourish.
Chicago is a perfectly pathetic example.
 
How does one envision a mob like this would be disrupted? One angry driver with a pistol or rifle is going to be put down pretty quick. They are itching for a reason to pull their triggers in "self defense".
 
How does one envision a mob like this would be disrupted? One angry driver with a pistol or rifle is going to be put down pretty quick. They are itching for a reason to pull their triggers in "self defense".
Small technical with a Mini. :cool:
 
Unfortunately this seems to be the case and the following is the disturbing part:

It's as though the 'system' is waiting for something to happen so when it does they can act on it, possibly with some 'contingencies' that MAY already be planned and prepared for but thats just a guess.
That is my assessment as well. I believe this is all intended to get a reaction so that the script can be played out. In fact I believe many here recognize that it has already happened in some ways.
 
We should look at this event as if the situation was reversed. Let's say we were having a Trump rally down the middle of the street and a perceived Antifa driver attempts to plow through the crowd. He stops, then jumps out, begins arguing and pointing a firearm while threatening to shoot us. Would all of us have walked away or would some have attempted to disarm the driver?
People at Trump rallies tend not to behave like anarchists. They don't block streets or highways and or terrorize traffic or people eating dinner. One can go on endlessly with the what if's and what about's but it's a night and day issue.
 
People at Trump rallies tend not to behave like anarchists. They don't block streets or highways and or terrorize traffic or people eating dinner. One can go on endlessly with the what if's and what about's but it's a night and day issue.
I should have used a different example. The point I was trying to make is that the mob may have felt they were within their right to be in street (many do these days) and that they were being threatened.
 
The point I was trying to make is that the mob may have felt they were within their right to [insert anything here]....
And therein lies the insidiousness of the plan...

They are led to believe this. No consequences have been served out for anything.
This is how to destroy the fabric of of a civilized society.
Yuri was right.
 
And therein lies the insidiousness of the plan...

They are led to believe this. No consequences have been served out for anything.
This is how to destroy the fabric of of a civilized society.
Yuri was right.
This goes back to my question about self defense posed on a different thread many moons ago. Does somebody who is doing something illegal give up their sense of self preservation? Maybe they should but most likely they don't unless they are looking to commit suicide by cop.

A guy robbing a bank would probably start shooting if somebody was shooting at him. Most people would like to stay alive even if they are in the midst of breaking the law.
 
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