Oregon IP 43 Dead, Dead, Dead

[3MTA3]

Let freedom ring! The Court has spoken and president has been set! Tread carefully, OryGunions are fully awake now, and were angry and we will vote!

This year's Independence Day will be extra glorious in Oregon. When we watch those fireworks let's think of the sacrifices made to create and keep this Republic! Let's commit to our responsibility to carry that Republic forth to future generations and do everything we can to oppose those who would weaken and corrupt the Bill of Rights in order to destroy This Republic!

 

[Vaultman]

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Remember who did the heavy lifting for us (OOC, OFF, NRA - who else?) this time around and keep making contributions so they will be full armed when we need them, which could be as early as the February legislative session. Even 5 bux each pay period to one of them will add up quick and make a huge difference.

I read OHA assisted in the fight against IP 44. They also deserve praise (at least mine). IP 44 would have made it so no youth (under 18) could hunt without their dad (or guardian) right by their side. Hunting at that age was a big part of growing up, and huge part of life. I cannot imagine that independence that I had, being taken away from my kids, because of some dumb ballot measure...

And now: IP 43 is dead = I could not be any happier today!

 

[Jonnyuma]

make the topic of gun control so toxic to any politician and activist that it becomes a death sentence to any and all aspirations of power and office!

^^^^THIS^^^^
Someone told Democrats that in 2016 gun control was safe. It had been a "third rail" topic in most places for all but the most radical of leftist wannabes.
The messege got put in their collective ears from Hillary on down and they foolishly believed it. Even with the ashes of the recalled pols in CO still smoldering, they were so eager to move forward with anti-gun rhetoric that they ignored the signs.
"...dismantle the NRA... " Girl, puhleease...
Make America Great Again, Make OR Great Again, and Make Gun Control Toxic Again.

'MURICA!

 

[E4mafia]

Man i'd be really upset if I was a backer/donate/contributor of both 43 and 44 right now. Good waste of money and time! especially to the outside financiers who were banking hard on this getting through.

 

[Aero Denezol]

I'm actually shocked the OSC did their job and didn't take the activist Judge approach.

Probably worried the "gun lobby" would trigger a red wave in November.

Agree with all those who said now is the time to go on offense and get out the vote.

 

[cigars]

So now the progressives probably think that we will celebrate by going outside and shooting guns in the air. Sorry to disappoint them but we tend to be responsible gun owners and we stand proudly behind safe gun practices. Why don't they get that?

 

[arakboss]

Man i'd be really upset if I was a backer/donate/contributor of both 43 and 44 right now. Good waste of money and time! especially to the outside financiers who were banking hard on this getting through.

Bloomberg and Soros have plenty of money they won't miss the money they wasted here

 

[SUPER X]

Damn, that was a close one, like a grenade in the same fox hole close! Well done every one, well done!!!

The,ll be back . Keep a eye out for these sneaky communist

 

[E4mafia]

Bloomberg and Soros have plenty of money they won't miss the money they wasted here

They may not, but the local ones will who aren't quite as rich.

 

[daiello91]

I read OHA assisted in the fight against IP 44. They also deserve praise (at least mine). IP 44 would have made it so no youth (under 18) could hunt without their dad (or guardian) right by their side. Hunting at that age was a big part of growing up, and huge part of life. I cannot imagine that independence that I had, being taken away from my kids, because of some dumb ballot measure...

And now: IP 43 is dead = I could not be any happier today!

Yes, OHA went in jointly with the NRA.

I speculate, they split the cost in trade for piggybacking NRA's legal team, because they don't have or regularly use an attorney like we (OOC), OFF or NRA. But regardless, yes, they were part of the hometeam.

 

[Ura-Ki]

Never forget, even an eagle needs to learn to fly before it becomes a freedom bird! ORYGUN, HELL YEA!

 

[SUPER X]

According to the courts Ruling, the term "Assault weapon" is to broad and misleading, it can be used to describe only military issue weapons ( correct call Justices) and it can be misrepresented by the list of specific features That would ban non military weapons! The court also "Found" the term too broad and full of multiple meanings! Emotionally Charged!

Its nice to see the supreme court has not been bought and paid for like the rest Oregon's officials. Good job thanks to everyone involved in fighting this. I will now rotate my flag upright in celebration

 

[SUPER X]

The Supreme Court sent it back to the AG to correct the misleading caption (Assault Weapon language).

Even if they did that today, we have 10 days to appeal (which has to pass before it can move forward).

We win, game over (for now). Formal post from OOC coming...

ARE WE INVITED TO CEASEFIRES PITY PARTY

 

[arakboss]

Any chance some one can post the courts actual ruling and instructions to the A.G?

Can we start a Recall of the comunist A.G.?
What about the O.S.C. can we unseat them as well, install a new and honest bench?

here is link to the opinion: http://oregonoutdoorcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/IP-43-Ballot-Title-Opinion.pdf

 

[arakboss]

Time to go on the offensive. It seems preparing an initiative guaranteeing our 2nd Amendment rights will not be curtailed in Oregon is the way to go. I for one hate being on the defensive side of things all the time.

Any such petition should be simple, started early and vetted to the extreme to make sure it doesn't get the scrutiny that this initiative did.

 

[3MTA3]

ARE WE INVITED TO CEASEFIRES PITY PARTY

I heard it's BYOG (Bring Your Own Gun). Trying to decide if I'll go open or concealed carry?

 

[Stomper]

Yeah...well screw them with an enema full of angry bees. They've been ramming all of their own special interest shinola down our throats for the last several decades.
I will happily take this win and then maybe piss on them if they set themselves on fire over their angst.

I'm sorry, sir. We CANNOT idly stand by and allow you to waste your precious bodily fluids on such an unworthy cause.

We will physically constrain you if need be.... let them burn.

 

[E4mafia]

here is link to the opinion: http://oregonoutdoorcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/IP-43-Ballot-Title-Opinion.pdf

Good read, thanks for the link!

III. CONCLUSION We refer the ballot title for IP 43 to the Attorney General for modification of the caption, the "yes" and "no" result statements, and the summary, as described in this opinion. The ballot title is referred for modification

:^)

 

[OldBroad44]

Man i'd be really upset if I was a backer/donate/contributor of both 43 and 44 right now. Good waste of money and time! especially to the outside financiers who were banking hard on this getting through.

I read somewhere that the original plan was to put these on the ballot in 2020, giving themselves plenty of time. And that they made a try for 2018 because the wave of anti-gun laws being passed in other states made it look possible. So 43 and 44 will be back in some form two years from now, and with much more prep and organization. We need to fight them as well as have some ballot measures of our own. I would like to see one that said that gun rights may not be suspended in times of disaster or emergency, nor may guns or knives be forbidden in emergency shelters.

KNIFE LAWS. While we're at it, we should develop some ballot measures on knife laws. Right now, it isn't obvious how long a folding knife blade can be to be considered an ordinary pocket knife, thus legal to carry concealed. There's no law. Court cases have determined that 4 3/4 is legal to carry concealed but 6 inches isn't. So I went to great pains to get a concealed handgun license only to figure out just recently that the 6 inch gardening knife I sometimes carried was illegal to carry concealed. I had to buy a new knife because of that.And ALL fixed blade knives are illegal concealed. And there is no preemption. Some cities have outlawed folding lockblade knives with blades only 3.5 inches for carry concealed. Nor is it obvious what counts as concealed. Is the clip only showing concealed? No one knows.

I would like, for starters, state preemption for knife laws. Then I would like a law saying that anyone with an Oregon CHL can carry any knife they want, of any length or style, concealed or not. And then a law specifying what length of blade is legal to carry concealed if you don't have a CHL, and making it legal for both folding and fixed blade knives.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I heard it's BYOG (Bring Your Own Gun). Trying to decide if I'll go open or concealed carry?

He'll, I'm trying to decide which 1911 I'm gonna open carry, my STI show piece with machined grips and alloy frame, my Caspian with elegant traditional style, or my Eclipse with it's modern yet classy look, then I need to decide which holster, traditional officers Sam browne, custom wild bunch, or old school drop leg hybrid cowboy gunslinger! so many choices, and yea, freedom!