Poll: In Oregon mesure 80 thought's Poll added

[Dunerunner]

Addictive! No more than sex or gambling....

Look at how easy those behaviors are to deal with. MJ would fit right in with those and I'm sure those programs don't cost the taxpayer anything.

for me, there is no sound reason to add to the cost of government being everyones conscience, and we both know abuses will occur.

 

[fd15k]

Addictive! No more than sex or gambling....

I am really disappointed prostitution wasn't brought up to a vote... voted "yes" on both casino measures though

 

[drew]

I am really disappointed prostitution wasn't brought up to a vote... voted "yes" on both casino measures though

Way to cover a couple more vices. .

I'll vote yes because I basically believe the government has no business telling people what to do unless their actions cause harm to others.

 

[Kevatc]

Does passage of 80 start a slippery slope in terms of all drug legalization? I am struggling with 80. I can see both sides of the argument.

 

[Father of four]

I'll vote yes because I basically believe the government has no business telling people what to do unless their actions cause harm to others.

That is what I believe also, unless The People vote something in or out.

The People should have the final say.

 

[WillMunny]

The income potential from industrial hemp would easily surpass 22M.
Consider this;
One acre of hemp can produce as much paper as 4 to 10 acres of trees over a 20-year cycle, but hemp stalks only take four months to mature, whereas trees take 20 to 80 years.
One acre of hemp will produce 4 tons of seeds, for 300 gallons of oil and 3 tons of high protein hempseed meal.
One acre of hemp outproduces cotton, 2 to 1, and makes a fabric of superior quality.
One acre of hemp produces 30 TONS of fiber, for paper, building materials, canvas, rope, lace and linen.
The hemp plant is highly resistant to most insect and disease, largely eliminating the need for most (or all) pesticides and herbicides.

The people who WANT to smoke pot are already smoking pot, legal or not.
The ONLY people who benefit from current laws are criminals.

 

[Father of four]

The ONLY people who benefit from current laws are criminals.

And the Cops and the courts. Pot is a cash cow. A huge one I imagine.

 

[dmancornell]

And the Cops and the courts. Pot is a cash cow. A huge one I imagine.

Don't forget the prison industry, in California they were the top donors against Proposition 19 in 2010.

 

[8ball]

The income potential from industrial hemp would easily surpass 22M.
Consider this;
One acre of hemp can produce as much paper as 4 to 10 acres of trees over a 20-year cycle, but hemp stalks only take four months to mature, whereas trees take 20 to 80 years.
One acre of hemp will produce 4 tons of seeds, for 300 gallons of oil and 3 tons of high protein hempseed meal.
One acre of hemp outproduces cotton, 2 to 1, and makes a fabric of superior quality.
One acre of hemp produces 30 TONS of fiber, for paper, building materials, canvas, rope, lace and linen.
The hemp plant is highly resistant to most insect and disease, largely eliminating the need for most (or all) pesticides and herbicides.

The people who WANT to smoke pot are already smoking pot, legal or not.
The ONLY people who benefit from current laws are criminals.

Hemp food sales in the US in 2010 were over $100m. If you check the labels on the hemp milk at the store, it's all grown in Canada and imported.

Hemp beats dairy milk full of hormones and genetically modified soy milk!

 

[Floridian]

Not sure it's apparent to everyone that voting yes on 80 means you're supporting with YOUR tax dollars having the state of Oregon provided legal defense to anyone brought up on federal drug charges for anything connected to marijuana. No way can I support this, based on that alone.

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[Sling Blade]

My uncle always said that you always see drunks fight, but you never see two stoned hippies fight.

 

[8ball]

Not sure it's apparent to everyone that voting yes on 80 means you're supporting with YOUR tax dollars having the state of Oregon provided legal defense to anyone brought up on federal drug charges for anything connected to marijuana. No way can I support this, based on that alone.

So how should the State defend their rights granted in the Constitution if it doesn't defend them in court?

Would you say the same thing if the Feds prosecuted locals over Oregon firearm laws?

 

[badclam]

Not sure it's apparent to everyone that voting yes on 80 means you're supporting with YOUR tax dollars having the state of Oregon provided legal defense to anyone brought up on federal drug charges for anything connected to marijuana. No way can I support this, based on that alone.

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Not at all true. We are wasting untold truckloads of money going after and prosecuting people for crimes associated with marijuana. Did we learn nothing from prohibition? All prohibition did was make the mafia rich. People are going to consume pot, legal or not. Lets move on and spend our resources going after dangerous criminals.

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[osterr1999]

I have always believed that the government has no right to tell me what I can and can't do with my own body as long as I am not harming anyone else. I personally don't use marijuana, but if someone else wants to smoke it in their home, that's none of my business. If they choose to get behind the wheel of a car, that's something else, but there are already laws against that, so I think we're covered.

 

[keystir]

I am really disappointed prostitution wasn't brought up to a vote... voted "yes" on both casino measures though

Unless it comes with a free major league baseball stadium, I will NEVER vote for any casino. Now back to marijuana talk.

 

[slimmer13]

If it were here I would vote yes. I don't smoke it, but we spend insane amounts of money fighting it. More than we do on education.

I 502?

I do not really know the difference between 80 and 502 but here you go...

Washington Initiative 502 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Unless it comes with a free major league baseball stadium, I will NEVER vote for any casino. Now back to marijuana talk.

And why is that sir?

 

[acp]

lots of yeses from gun lovers! I bet this passes big time factoring in all the libs and dems that are gonna vote for realsies

 

[The Redpaw]

I've read all the posts in this thread, there are some straw man arguments and valid concerns as well. I'm of the opinion that we can make some serious gains in production uses and taxable base from this enterprise.

I don't use, no criminal history and I'm willing to see the use of hemp as well as marijuana bring new production and jobs to a community that needs it.

BUT.....(and I'm laughing as I write out this next statement) if one does grow a crop and for reasons unknown decides not to harvest that year, does it become an old growth crop subject to environmental regulations based on the spotted owl?...a hemp eating rat?, a pot savaging deer population?....

Old growth pot regulations, yet to be written, Eco species in peril?....

Okay, I'll be back and be serious again in a while.

 

[keystir]

And why is that sir?

Unless it concerns overpriced trams, bike trails, or light rail Oregon politicians can't get out of their own way in making the Portland area a prosperous place. I wonder how many jobs a new baseball stadium and casino would have added to the local economy? Enough to buy a lot of marijuana I bet.

Grand Ronde tribe proposes stadium for urban casino deal - ICTMN.com