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Hunting With AR-10 in Oregon - Legal?

Discussion in 'Firearm Laws & Legal' started by 3MTA3, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    ...Or any other semi automatic rifle with detachable magazines

    From the 2016 Oregon Hunting Regulations page 27:
    http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resources/hunting/big_game/docs/16ORHD_LR.pdf

    Centerfire firearm
    •Fully automatic firearms prohibited.
    Semiautomatic rifles with a magazine
    capacity greater than five cartridges
    prohibited
    (except for western gray
    squirrel).
    •Military or full-metal jacket bullets in
    original or altered form prohibited.
    •Hunters may use any muzzleloader with
    any ignition type, except matchlock, any
    legal sight, any propellant, or any bullet
    type during centerfire firearm seasons,
    provided the weapon meets caliber
    restriction for the species

    Question - is it legal in Oregon to use a 10 round magazine that has a 5 round limiter in place when hunting? Or does the above mean that since I can put a magazine in the rifle that holds over 5 rounds it can't be used?

    Obviously regular hunting ammunition would be used.
     
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  2. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I'd give them a call for verification, recording who, when and any credentials you can get over the phone....

    But it sounds like a five round magazine, even with a limiter, would fulfill the requirement...

    Think about semi-automatic or pump shotguns, you just put a plug in to limit the capacity...

    I would think the same principle would apply here...

    Just my .02, and worth every penny paid for it :)
     
  3. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Whew!! I misread the title the first time, and I thought it read:
    Hunting with the A10 in Oregon!

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    Hey Pa, I got one!!!!!!

    ?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a10a.eu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F07%2FA-10_Thunderbolt_II_Gun_Run.jpe
     
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  4. Foreverlost

    Foreverlost South of LesbianVille, OR. Active Member

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    Two sources to ask: ODFW any of their biologist and the OSP, the troopers that enforce the laws and would write you a ticket.

    Foreverlost,
     
  5. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Would that be for hunting Liberals?

    Sorry, couldn't resist... I'm in a kinda sarcastic mood this morning....
     
  6. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    I did just pop that question to their e-mail address - I'll report back what they say.

    Honestly I prefer to hunt with a bolt action, but wanted to know just in case.
     
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  7. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    My personal experience was using a 10 round mag with a block limiting it to 5-rounds total. (1) in the chamber and (4) in the mag. I made my own block. When I was hunting over by Pine Mountain a DFW officer asked about it and I showed him the limit to the mag and he responded positively.
     
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  8. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I would wait for confirmation but common sense (I know GOV agencies have none) says a limiter in the magazine is sufficient to keep within the realm of the Govnor (in a British accent).....o_O:)
     
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  9. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Seems most DFW folk are pretty cool and are more interested in the d00chebag road hunters and poachers.
     
  10. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Fulton Armory has 5 round mags in stock, if you would feel better hunting with one in your gun:

    http://www.fulton-armory.com/magazi...i-tilt-follower-crsi-spring-black-finish.aspx.

    As far as ammo goes, does your 308 AR have a short barrel? If it does, it would benefit from using Federal's 308 MSR load, which is optimized to produce higher velocity out of shorter barrels. If one shops around, you can generally find it online for around $20 for a box of 20:

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/85768


    Some testing of the ammo in 20% ballistic gelatin by Brass Fletcher Ballistic Testing. It looks like it could kill most anything, with good shot placement. It produces a very large wound cavity, but also offers good penetration too. Good energy transfer.

     
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  11. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. The limiter should cover you like a plug in the shotgun. Just don't have a 20 or 25 round mag hanging around while hunting. That could look bad.
     
  12. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It would be no problem if you were hunting something like rockchucks or coyotes, though. :D

    predator_hunt_ar_5.jpg
    .

    I think that in some states high caps would be legal for pigs too. Aren't they considered to be a varmint in many states?

    Deer-Hog-Hunt-4-web.jpg


    And then why limit yourself to just 20 rounds, when you can get a 50 round 308 drum from X-Products???? :eek:

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  13. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Yes legal with 5 round magazine.

    Unless you are hunting predator/pests such as Coyotes, rabbits.
     
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  14. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Nothing has changed. 5 rounds in magazine IS legal to hunt big game. That does not include chamber as that's not a magazine. A limiter limits rounds to a legal number.
     
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  15. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    As promised, here is the response from ODFW:

    To: 3MTA3
    Subject: RE: Question Regarding Hunting With Detachable Magazines
    I would recommend that you direct this question to Oregon State Police.

    Thank you
    Brain Dead Bureaucrat That Can't Interpret His Own Rules
    ODFW

    From: 3MTA3 [mailto:likethisismyrealemail.com]
    Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:33 AM
    To: ODFW.WildlifeInfo@state.or.us
    Subject: Question Regarding Hunting With Detachable Magazines

    Hello,

    I have a question about hunting big game using a semi-automatic rifle that has detachable magazines. The magazines available for my rifle hold a minimum of 10 rounds, however there is a device I can put in the magazine that reduces the capacity to 5. This device can be removed, however it looks like I could also permanently glue it in place. Would this allow me to legally use this rifle for hunting big game in Oregon?

    Thanks,
    3MTA3

    Yes, the answer is to ask another State agency that has nothing to do with the rules I asked them to interpret. :confused:

    I'm just going to get the 5 round mags and keep them for this purpose.
     
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  16. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    What a joke. If ODFW can't tell you details, I doubt OSP is going to. It's ODFW that will cite you if you are not in compliance.
     
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  17. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O...........We may very well see that in the next few days and weeks...........No its not a joke, I wish it were! Still, I made that same miss read my self!
     
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  18. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Email them back and ask who makes the rules for hunting OUR animals?
     
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  19. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Yep a low cap (5rd) magazine . Soft point type ammo for deer and elk and similar game mammals.
     
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  20. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Since we now have confirmation that ODFW employees are indeed idiots, this might be the wisest thing for you to do.
     
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