Gov. Brown set to announce gun safety agenda

[TinyCrumb]

Add boyfriend to list of possible domestic abusers that lose gun rights

Allows hold on guns until background check comes back eliminating the three day limit on wait.

This is the bad one-eliminate sale of regular capacity magazines. Stock up !

I have to admit one thing I DO like is that she is going to send red flags to the police when someone lies on a 4473 and gets caught. Frankly if someone is lying to get a gun I DO want them investigated.

No semi-auto ban yet

5 people in the audience.

Generally the OSP already does investigate that person. If you get denied on a 4473 it's not like you just walk out of the store. OSP will usually head down there, talk to the person and investigate what's going on. I think this proposal is specifically that they also have to notify local law enforcement. Whether that's county or city (or both) I'm unclear on. But I agree with you, this generally seems like a good thing and will hopefully take some of the burden off of OSP to handle all this stuff.

As for the "loopholes", whatever…

But the magazine capacity thing is sad. She kept using the word "extended capacity" which I'm sure in their world means anything over 10 rounds? But she didn't get that specific. Either way, it's going to be legislation so I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out in terms of what the details are and what chance it has of passing.

 

[wired]

Generally the OSP already does investigate that person. If you get denied on a 4473 it's not like you just walk out of the store. OSP will usually head down there, talk to the person and investigate what's going on.

I think it is like you just walk out of the store. Why on earth would anyone hang out in the store waiting for the OSP to show up if you have been denied on a 4473?

 

[TinyCrumb]

I think it is like you just walk out of the store. Why on earth would anyone hang out in the store waiting for the OSP to show up if you have been denied on a 4473?

Because they typically don't tell you right away. And if you do, then they just show up to your house. It's not like you can just "bolt" to get away lol. It doesn't really matter if you leave or not, the point is, OSP already does investigate this stuff. I'm sure they're over-run with it though, especially since the bill last year requiring private sales to go through this. So notifying local-law enforcement and letting them investigate or sharing information seems only a positive thing. I can't really see how that'd be negative for law-abiding gun owners.

 

[nammac]

Lies that are made up by anti-gun politicians to make it sound any criminal or crazy person can get a firearm without a background check. Like everything else it is hyperbole to make unthinking people to decide issues based on their emotions rather than facts.

Did you know that I went to the library the other day to get a book on ancient Greece and the only think that they would let me check out was a Glock?

Are you a teen by any chance? Because we all know they can get Glocks easier than books...

If y'all don't think this is tyranny, then perhaps I can interest you in a bridge in Brooklyn...

 

[3MTA3]

Transcript - Executive Fiat and State Legislation requests in bold. Note that the AWB will be a ballot measure spearheaded by religious leaders so as not to cause political difficulties for the Oregon legislature

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REMARKS AS PREPARED
Gun Safety Agenda Announcement
July 15, 2016
Good morning. I am Governor Kate Brown, and I am very pleased
to introduce the following individuals who have joined me today:
• Congresswoman Suzanne Bonamici
• Senator Ron Wyden
• Paul Kemp, Gun Owners for Responsible Ownership
• Reverend Dr. T. Allen Bethel, Senior Pastor of Maranatha
Church
• Pastor Mark Knuston, Augustana Lutheran Church
• Kay Toran, President and CEO of Volunteers of America of
Oregon
• Nancy Haque, Co-Executive of Director of Basic Rights
Oregon
• And Rod Underhill, Multnomah County District Attorney
[To those joining you:] Thank you for standing with me today,
united by our determination to take positive action against a
negative force that threatens our communities, our quality of life,
and our future: Gun violence.
Orlando
San Bernardino
Charleston
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Newtown
Aurora
Clackamas
Dallas
Roseburg
Gun violence is terrorizing America, tearing apart the very fabric
of our communities and our families.
It seems we hardly go more than a few days or weeks without
hearing of another tragic gun-related death.
In Oregon, we bear witness to the gun violence in America every
single day.
Since I was sworn in as Governor sixteen months ago, more than
600 Oregonians have died from violence inflicted with a gun,
more than 100 of those due to homicidal violence.
600 of us.
I had the sad honor of representing our citizens at a memorial
service for Seaside Police Department Sergeant Jason Goodding,
murdered by a felon who had obtained a firearm.
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I have met with some of the families of the UCC Nine – nine
people shot and killed when a student walked into a classroom at
Umpqua Community College and began firing. I will never forget
that day. And I vowed to do whatever I could to make sure it
never happens again.
We also understand that we face more than an epidemic of gun
violence.
The recent shootings of two black men— Alton Sterling and
Philando Castile [FIL-ANNE-DOE CAS-TEEL]— again expose a
sense of deep anger and mistrust about the justice system in the
United States. In Portland and across the nation, thousands took
to the streets and social media to peacefully proclaim "Black Lives
Matter."
As they did, a lone gunman armed with a military-style assault
rifle opened fire on the streets of Dallas. We were all horrified and
heartbroken by the senseless killing of five respected and beloved
Dallas Police Officers.
At the memorial service for the fallen Dallas officers, President
Obama offered this reminder:
"If we're to sustain the unity we need to get through these difficult
times, if we are to honor these five outstanding officers who we've
lost, then we will need to act on the truths that we know," he said.
What I know is violence answers nothing, offers nothing, solves
nothing.
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It robs us of our humanity, turning us against one another
promising only more pain, more loss. Instead of reaching for
weapons, we must reach for answers.
If we want to end violence, we must fight ignorance and
desperation. We must instill hope and create opportunity. We
must work together to defend justice and achieve equality.
As your Governor, I call on each of us, as Oregonians and as
Americans, to end gun violence now.
I call on the state legislature to pass three new laws to improve
gun safety in Oregon in three ways:
I am developing legislation for the 2017 session to close what has
been dubbed "the Charleston Loophole."
Current law gives the Oregon State Police three days to complete
background checks. If the state police cannot complete it in that
narrow window, they must allow the gun purchase to go through.
By closing the Charleston Loophole, we make sure individuals
who should not own a gun are not able to obtain one simply
because authorities were unable to complete the background
check within the current timelines.
I will also propose legislation to close the so-called "Boyfriend
Loophole"— to expand the types of relationships that qualify as
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"domestic violence" so people convicted of certain crimes of
domestic violence no longer have access to firearms.
In 2014, there were fifty-six victims of domestic violence reported
in Oregon. Seventy-percent of those victims — thirty-nine people
— were women. Forty-five percent of all victims — men or
women — died from gunshots.
A majority of the victims (fifty-eight percent) were killed by current
or former intimate partners, including spouses.
Additionally, this legislation proposes to outlaw future purchases
of extended capacity magazines. When a man intent on killing as
many people as he could entered the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando,
he did so with extended capacity magazines.
Those magazines allowed him to fire his weapon repeatedly
without stopping to reload, without any pause that might have
given his victims or law enforcement a chance to stop him.
Second, I am taking immediate action and will use my executive
authority to strengthen existing Oregon law.
My executive order directs the Oregon State Police to retain, for
law enforcement purposes only, firearm transactions for the full
five years it is statutorily authorized to do. Additionally, I am
directing Oregon State Police to proactively notify local law
enforcement if a person prohibited by law from buying a gun tries
to buy one.
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These steps will greatly assist local, state, and federal law
enforcement agencies in determining where firearms used in
crimes have come from. If there are "bad apple" gun dealers, this
data and will help the police find them, can be used in the
prosecuting of illegal firearm deals, and will help keep guns from
falling into the wrong hands.
And third, we need more information and data.
By executive order, I direct the Oregon Health Authority to issue
annual gun death reports and make policy recommendations, to
work with entities studying gun deaths, and to identify data gaps
and how to close those gaps.
I am also creating a work group to report back to me on Domestic
Violence cases, specifically to review the existing counties' gun
relinquishment protocols and to make recommendations on a
statewide policy to enhance the safety of domestic violence
survivors.
Lastly, I call on Congress to act.
First and foremost, Congress must to take action to do as Oregon
has done: close gaps in the background check process to keep
guns out of the wrong hands, and ban destructive and dangerous
assault weapons.
Assault weapons are, without question, the weapon of choice for
those intent on causing a great deal of harm to a large number of
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people—from last week's assault on police in Dallas, to last
month's attack on a club in Orlando, and last year's shooting in
Roseburg.
Congress must also pass the "No Fly, No Buy" anti-terrorist
legislation. Anyone not eligible, for security reasons, to fly on an
airplane should be able to buy a firearm in this country.
I offer Oregon's Congressional delegation the assistance and
power of my office in passing these critical initiatives.
These three steps – urging Congress to ban assault weapons and
strengthen anti-terrorist legislation; using my executive authority
to strengthen state law enforcement efforts, and championing four
important changes to state law, are critical to stepping up gun
safety in Oregon.
I look forward to working with the Legislature to close these
dangerous loopholes, keep guns away from dangerous people,
and hold wrongdoers accountable.
Thank you.
It is now my pleasure to introduce Congresswoman Suzanne
Bonamici.

 

[nammac]

Because they typically don't tell you right away. And if you do, then they just show up to your house. It's not like you can just "bolt" to get away lol. It doesn't really matter if you leave or not, the point is, OSP already does investigate this stuff. I'm sure they're over-run with it though, especially since the bill last year requiring private sales to go through this. So notifying local-law enforcement and letting them investigate or sharing information seems only a positive thing. I can't really see how that'd be negative for law-abiding gun owners.

Actually according to the OSP's own numbers, their follow up rate is low single digits, very low, like 2% or less.

In a given monit it typically looks like this, 30 felony denials, OSP follow-up and/or arrest, 1 or less...

It's a joke, they don't go after the criminals, it's us law abiding gun owners they're after.. Going after the criminals would deflate their agenda. Why in the would would you want to remove those responsible for gun crimes from society. It's not part of the narrative.

 

[Boats]

That woman, and her fellows, are stuck on stupid.

 

[etrain16]

Looks like I'll need to see my doctor - both middle fingers are extended and I can't bend them...

I've heard exercising your trigger finger at the range will help with that problem...

 

[3MTA3]

That woman, and her fellows, are stuck on stupid.

And they are driving...

 

[nammac]

Time to clean house in Salem and delouse it too...

We need a fundamental shift in this state. We welcome unvetted refugees on one hand, while trampling the Constitution and certain civil rights on the other.

This is a state run by liberals. One where my eight-year-old daughter might be subjected to sharing lavatory facilities with a 36 year-old perverted male who thinks he's a woman that day. What is wrong with the state!!!

 

[etrain16]

So, any gun owners in Oregon still okay voting for Brown and the rest of her party affiliates in the House and Senate?? See where they're taking us already? We haven't even reached 2017 and they're already deepening their assault on our rights.

How many of you will continue to give a vote to people like this?? Do you care nothing for your 2nd amendment rights?

I think many of us knew that SB941 was just the beginning. Allowing that to pass has emboldened them to take the restrictions deeper and deeper. Unless we, the voters, change the political makeup of this state's legislature and Governorship, we will lose, big time.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Time to clean house in Salem and delouse it too...

We need a fundamental shift in this state. We welcome unvetted refugees on one hand, while trampling the Constitution and certain civil rights on the other.

This is a state run by liberals. One where my eight-year-old daughter might be subjected to sharing lavatory facilities with a 36 year-old perverted male who thinks he's a woman that day. What is wrong with the state!!!

Best comment in the comments section:

"I have an idea.....the liberals said along time ago, "we cant stop kids from having sex, so lets teach them about sex in schools, and hand out condoms" Well, right back at ya.....Lets teach kids about guns in school and give them gun safety courses. Mandatory....."

 

[3MTA3]

By the way, per Brown's speech Orlando, San Diego, et al are not terror attacks, they were "gun violence"... There was also a lot of "kumbaya" moments from other speakers regarding the Religion of (blowing you into a million) Peace(es)... Heads planted fully in sand...

 

[ob1]

Has anyone seen any language related to the possession / mandatory turn-in of said items ? Like California.... as opposed to merely a ban on the sale of new ones like the old "Brady" bill.

 

[TinyCrumb]

Has anyone seen any language related to the possession / mandatory turn-in of said items ? Like California.... as opposed to merely a ban on the sale of new ones like the old "Brady" bill.

She specifically mentioned "future purchases".

 

[3MTA3]

The Governor requested the legislature to ban the sale, but my guess is that after the Democrats retain control of the Senate, House, and Governorship it may well become a confiscation ban as well. There is absolutely nothing to stop them short of a November surprise.

Don't trust them and think that today was the limit of their 2017 plans - it's just the tip of the iceberg, or should I say Bloomberg...

 

[ob1]

Thanks...not that I have any of those evil icky things anyway...just curious

 

[TinyCrumb]

The Governor requested the legislature to ban the sale, but my guess is that after the Democrats retain control of the Senate, House, and Governorship it may well become a confiscation ban as well. There is absolutely nothing to stop them short of a November surprise.

Don't trust them and think that today was the limit of their 2017 plans - it's just the tip of the iceberg, or should I say Bloomberg...

I don't trust them, but I don't see that practically happening. The logistics are not in their favor. The best way to confiscate them would be to ban the sale first and then work on confiscation a couple years afterwards … just like California did. I don't think they'll get the support they need to jump the staircase. They need to take it one step at a time.

 

[Doc In UPlace]

Did you know that I went to the library the other day to get a book on ancient Greece and the only think that they would let me check out was a Glock?

Could you rephrase this? I guess I'm a little slow today.

 

[U8395279]

The good news it that they are tipping their hands before the election. Maybe people will wake the eff up? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The bad news is that they are pretty confident they hold all the cards and gun owners no longer matter. They are probably right.

I'm a bit surprised at this too. One would think that they would wait until after the election to announce their plans for new gun controls. Especially since the legislature does not convene until January. Maybe this means that nothing extreme is being planned? One can only wonder about what will be announced today.

On another note, does anyone know if the NO MORE FAKE EMERGENCIES initiative qualified for the November ballot??

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