Got any plans for the Pistol Brace apocalypse?

[Kruel J]

I'll just wait for Supreme Court rulings and then see where that goes

Or you could just forget about the braces and stick with real SBR's.

 

[wired]

I'll just wait for Supreme Court rulings and then see where that goes

That'll be too late. Get in while the gettings good...and free.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Well sheeez, now I will probably have to get a gun trust so my wife and kids can use and inherit my SBRs.

 

[Kruel J]

Well sheeez, now I will probably have to get a gun trust so my wife and kids can use and inherit my SBRs.

I did mine on an individual. My wife shoots it everytime we take it out. A trust may be in the future though for inheritance purposes.

 

[arrowshooter]

Im not sure the shockwaves will be affected. Thats a whole different legal issue.

I don't think they are a target - yet.

I am pretty sure they do not care what brace it is. Even the Shockwave, ATF approval and all, failed the now "old" worksheet because it was adjustable.

 

[The Heretic]

I am pretty sure they do not care what brace it is. Even the Shockwave, ATF approval and all, failed the now "old" worksheet because it was adjustable.

Mossberg Shockwave firearm

 

[arrowshooter]

Mossberg Shockwave firearm

oops.

 

[Stomper]

Oh, its coming.

Glad I got in early.

MAN! The dad joke potential is STRONG in this thread!

Ya government bootlickers!

 

[nammac]

I'm just here to watch and laugh at the meltdown and "bootlicker" comments.

 

[Member 3687]

Glad I got in early.

Oh, its coming.

oops.

MAN! The dad joke potential is STRONG in this thread!

I do not know what your talking about.

 

[kmk1012]

@wired i have a question. Let's say I do the form 1 with a pistol and get the "free" stamp. After approval, is there a green light to put a rifle stock on it? Or would it have to retain the brace and be in its original configuration that it was in when the photo was taken? Seems like a loophole, or a trap, I don't want the latter.

 

[wired]

@wired i have a question. Let's say I do the form 1 with a pistol and get the "free" stamp. After approval, is there a green light to put a rifle stock on it? Or would it have to retain the brace and be in its original configuration that it was in when the photo was taken? Seems like a loophole, or a trap, I don't want the latter.

There is no NFA classification of braced pistol. That would take a law amending the NFA. You'll be SBR'ing the gun. The position of the ATF is that your brace is a stock .

 

[The Heretic]

@wired i have a question. Let's say I do the form 1 with a pistol and get the "free" stamp. After approval, is there a green light to put a rifle stock on it? Or would it have to retain the brace and be in its original configuration that it was in when the photo was taken? Seems like a loophole, or a trap, I don't want the latter.

My observation would be, unless they add some kind of amendment to the laws/regs/rules, what serves as a buttstock (brace or stock) is irrelevant. You don't have to re-register an SBR if you replace the buttstock with a different buttstock - AFAIK.

I think they are just making a minimal effort to reduce the number of people who would try to get a free SBR stamp without having a brace - and maybe to set a precedent for "constructive intent/possession" in the future.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Stamps all around.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I was under the impression that the amnesty would simply be "as long as you pay the tax to make them SBRs, we won't prosecute nor arrest you for owning unregistered SBRs"?

I agree with this, nowhere on this notice regarding a change to the structure of "form 1" does it say "free", "fees waived", etc. in regard to pistol brace stamps. There is mention of the word "amnesty" which by definition is forgiveness of some past/current crime. It does not mean "fees waived". Who knows what ATF will come up with but everyone is inferring "free stamps" and there is no info on that anywhere that I have seen.

 

[wired]

I agree with this, nowhere on this notice regarding a change to the structure of "form 1" does it say "free", "fees waived", etc. in regard to pistol brace stamps. There is mention of the word "amnesty" which by definition is forgiveness of some past/current crime. It does not mean "fees waived". Who knows what ATF will come up with but everyone is inferring "free stamps" and there is no info on that anywhere that I have seen.

The reports I have seen are they are figuring out a way to change the efile system to allow for free amnesty registration and they are determining how much it will cost them

 

[Knobgoblin]

The reports I have seen are they are figuring out a way to change the efile system to allow for free amnesty registration and they are determining how much it will cost them

Lol.

Double their estimated cost and add it to next decades annual budgets.

Alphabet boi cunning.

 

[wired]

Lol.

Double their estimated cost and add it to next decades annual budgets.

Alphabet boi cunning.

I remember when Reagan changed the payday for the federal government from the 31st to the 1st. Wiped out 1/12th of that years payroll budget.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

The reports I have seen are they are figuring out a way to change the efile system to allow for free amnesty registration and they are determining how much it will cost them

Who knows what they will come up with. It's possible they don't want to get into the same boat as EPA and get knocked down for "over reaching" by too big of an impact to the economy (such as happened with EPA). But that's pretty thin though. Who knows.

1968 machine gun amnesty is probably too old to be a guide too, but who knows. That one was a true amnesty. Illegal guns could be made legal if owners registered it during the 30 Day amnesty window.

My guess is this "amnesty" will be to say braces are illegal but if you register it you can keep it on that gun, but just a guess. A bit similar to the 1968 one in that sense. If that were the case then a person couldn't legally add a brace to another gun after the amnesty window closes.

 

[wired]

Who knows what they will come up with. It's possible they don't want to get into the same boat as EPA and get knocked down for "over reaching" by too big of an impact to the economy (such as happened with EPA). But that's pretty thin though. Who knows.

1968 machine gun amnesty is probably too old to be a guide too, but who knows. That one was a true amnesty. Illegal guns could be made legal if owners registered it during the 30 Day amnesty window.

My guess is this "amnesty" will be to say braces are illegal but if you register it you can keep it on that gun, but just a guess. A bit similar to the 1968 one in that sense.

They have said they aren't grandfathering. It will be an SBR