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So you are correct, I shot my last deer at 65 yards with a 270, 150gr nosler partition and it did great, but with my 308 I am looking to push it out and shoot some steel at 500+ yards, I can load just about anything under 175gr and get 2700fps out of it at the barrel and keep around 2350 - 2600 fps at 100 - 200 yards, I have a bunch of 150gr hornady softpoint that is a flatbase that I will be loading for deer and small game, and in which case shooting MOA would be fine with me. I know talking to Dyjital last night that he is in the same boat with wanting to push his 308 past the stock short range of 200 yards that they have here at the ARPC and would like to get to 350 - 500 yards and then beyond when we can hit that correctly. So looking for a nice tight group at 100 - 200 yards is a nice place to start to make sure your loads are solid before moving out to 350 plus.