Coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19) Official Thread

[Member 34319]

My concern level continues to increase about my wife's due date of May 26. Things could be very bad by then.
She's not considered low risk pregnancy either, so home birth or birth center will not be possible. We'll have to be at the hospital... hope there are beds!

And the worst of it is going to be wondering if the staff are infectious.

Congratulations!

If you need anything let me know!

 

[awshoot]

Government officials are geniuses the world over:

Mexican governor says poor are 'immune' to coronavirus

 

[DB is Here]

Government officials are geniuses the world over:

Mexican governor says poor are 'immune' to coronavirus

It that like wealth shaming?

 

[CRBMoA]

Government officials are geniuses the world over:

Mexican governor says poor are 'immune' to coronavirus

 

[CountryGent]

From The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: Experts know the new coronavirus is not a bioweapon. They disagree on whether it could have leaked from a research lab

 

[Idaho44]

Dispersing urban residents to rural environments, another fantasy perpetrated by an urban 'expert'! The urbanites are trashing the places they invade. When the come, they recreate the horrors they 'left behind'. Note: there is a very limited 'tech sector' in Boise but lots of high prices for the basics thanks to the emigrants!

 

[SpudBob]

From The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: Experts know the new coronavirus is not a bioweapon. They disagree on whether it could have leaked from a research lab

Its interesting that Wuhan was ground zero for SARS as well as Covid19 and the location of a level 4 biological weapons research lab. Me thinks it was NOT an accident.

 

[2A2Dend]

The whole outbreak and spreading, brings to thought, the movie WAR GAMES - Global Thermonuclear War -- "Shall We Play A Game?"

 

[sobo]

"The only way to win… is not to play."

 

[Diamondback]

Underreported bombshell: Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Admits He Was Wrong, Drastically Revises Model

 

[sobo]

An unexpected error has occurred.


What don't they want us to know...???

 

[308]

The general admonition from the CV experts is that I should be more worried about a potential unreality than I was about statistically provable realities from last year, the year before that, and even this year.

I am supposed to be worried about what may or may not happen when I'm not worried about what is actually happening in the case of America, where 23k estimated flu related deaths this year alone...compared to less than 800 deaths from the Corona Virus?

But you say this is different and not comparable, correct...according to CDC and WHO up to 650k people die every year from flu related illnesses.

And right now the world is shutting down.

These numbers do not correspond to our response.

If we didn't shut the US down when 4000 Americans were dying every week, how are we shutting the US down when less than 800 have died in a month?

Does anyone not comprehend that in the same time frame 800 have died due to CV, 16,000 died two years ago from the flu?

Imagine the headlines and panic, and NWFA thread length if the news today said '4000 Americans Died Every Week From CV'...there would be mayhem, but guess what? That was an actual reality two years ago and none of you batted an eyelash.

Life went on, your TV programs continued, you went to work, your investments were growing, everything continued and there was a higher push for you to get that flu shot.

4000 Americans were dying per week, two years ago, and if China, South Korea, or Washington is any indication, then there is every reason to believe this FLU will be like every other in that it comes at a similar time annually with a slow uptick, then an upwards spike, then a peak, then a downturn.

When all this is done and you see the numbers are not even close to what the flu has done this year or previous years, then we need to ask why exactly did we respond this way and what does this set the stage for?

I do know this; we don't know what long term affects there will be economically, socially and for the mental health of people.

This completely changes the world climate as we know it. And I predict you all are going to see the dust settle, and you are going to recognize these numbers did not even come close to seasonal flu numbers, because they haven't and the've had the same time effectively, and without a vaccine to stop it.

 

[Phantom Man]

Sweden has taken the approach I support and we will see how it turns out...

https://www.thelocal.se/20200228/what-is-sweden-doing-about-the-coronavirus

 

[CamoDeafie]

While 98%-99% are not going to die from it... the cases needing ICU and such seems to be far higher than for the influenza.

 

[Phantom Man]

While 98%-99% are not going to die from it... the cases needing ICU and such seems to be far higher than for the influenza.

You are correct but the true impact is overstated. 70% infected don't even though they have it. 20% have mild or strong reactions. Only 10% of those who have strong reactions need hospitals. 3% with strong reactions need respirators.

 

[wp4]

You are correct but the true impact is overstated. 70% infected don't even though they have it. 20% have mild or strong reactions. Only 10% of those who have strong reactions need hospitals. 3% with strong reactions need respirators.

It's also more infectious than the flu. So these 3% numbers can get very big. Atlanta ICU is already maxed out.


I really hope your right. Time will tell, that's for sure.

I believe the washington state deaths from coronavirus have already matched that of the flu. Flu has been going there since fall, and coronavirus only the last 2 months or so.

More coronavirus deaths than flu deaths reported in Washington this season

In Washington state there were 86 flu deaths reported from September to mid-March. Coronavirus deaths neared 100 over the weekend.

www.king5.com

We've already seen several countries become overrun with cases, and their healthcare system was unable to keep up. While we do have the highest number of ventilators per capita in the world, it's still not enough, as we're beginning to see in New York.

How will it be different here, or in the UK, especially if we don't take it seriously, like they did in S Korea?

 

[Phantom Man]

It's also more infectious than the flu. So these 3% numbers can get very big. Atlanta ICU is already maxed out.


I really hope your right. Time will tell, that's for sure.

I believe the washington state deaths from coronavirus have already matched that of the flu. Flu has been going there since fall, and coronavirus only the last 2 months or so.

More coronavirus deaths than flu deaths reported in Washington this season

In Washington state there were 86 flu deaths reported from September to mid-March. Coronavirus deaths neared 100 over the weekend.

www.king5.com

The virus has run rampant in Washington because it got a hold of old and compromised individuals. If you look at the hard numbers who died I believe that would support my position. The last time I checked in Clark County three had died and two were in the 80s and the third person was 57 with compromised health. Absolutely those people need to be insulated from the rest of the population.

 

[edslhead]

Instead of whining that Trumps not getting protective med supply's to Oregon ,why doesn't brownstain commandeer all the personal protection equipment form Intel? Shut em down.


"When Oregon Gov. Kate Brown issued an order Monday requiring Oregonians to generally stay home, she specifically exempted manufacturing and construction. Brown said those industries can continue operating so long as they take steps to prevent the spread of the virus."

 

[Cavedweller]

You are correct but the true impact is overstated. 70% infected don't even though they have it. 20% have mild or strong reactions. Only 10% of those who have strong reactions need hospitals. 3% with strong reactions need respirators.

Your post seems to imply that only 10% of less than 20% (<2% of total) require hospitalizations. Not according to WHO:
According to the new report, "while most people with COVID-19 develop mild or uncomplicated illness, approximately 14% develop severe disease requiring hospitalization and oxygen support and 5% require admission to an intensive care unit to try to prevent the most severe complications including septic shock — a significant drop in blood pressure that can lead to stroke, heart or respiratory failure, failure of other organs or death."

 

[CountryGent]

It's also more infectious than the flu. So these 3% numbers can get very big. Atlanta ICU is already maxed out.

Indeed, bad news out of Atlanta. And New York City is in very bad shape.