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My god people. You don't have to "spine shoot" an elk with a. 270...... and I'm not even going to address"how long would it take to die with a little. 270". Seriously? Ignorance is blissfor the. 338 winmag salesman.
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A 308 to the head would end all this...but as long as people are only good enough to hit a target the size of a front door, and then watch the animal suffer and die a half hour...the whole conversation is really moot...you might as well just shoot it with anything, as just shooting something is what most really want to do...
I can say this with some certainty of all the hunters dropping in to sight in rifles, they never shoot, asking me to get them on at 25 yards...
So to heck with ethical, what's the right caliber or not....it's moot...
A 308 to the head would end all this...but as long as people are only good enough to hit a target the size of a front door, and then watch the animal suffer and die a half hour...the whole conversation is really moot...you might as well just shoot it with anything, as just shooting something is what most really want to do...
I can say this with some certainty of all the hunters dropping in to sight in rifles, they never shoot, asking me to get them on at 25 yards...
So to heck with ethical, what's the right caliber or not....it's moot...
I didn't make this world.....you wanna shoot animals for 'sport'...let's not sugar coat what 'ethical' is or isn't.
Did ever occur to you that many people feed thier families with the game they take through out the year. Or is it too hard to hear us from way up there on your tower. I'm guessing you live off tofu and such, and find it fullfilling, but some of us don't. And prefer to live in world where they have the option to go out in nature and harvest pure organic meat that hasn't been pumped full of hormones and toxins.
If one hunter came up to me and said..
I hunt because it's fun to take down animals, I don't mind how much it suffers, what ever it takes to bring it down...I like the meat, I like being outside...it's legal, and I can get away with screwing over an animal...
At least he's being honest..
A friend who is an avid hunter and owner of an archery website stated...'its stupid to talk of killing animals with a bow in any ethical terms...your puncturing an animal with 4 razor blades attached to a stick"
So yeah I had a steak the other night, and I realized some pour animal got screwed over for it....it doesn't sit well with me...but at least I can live with the concept that it's sustenance, that's the way it's been for some time....I just don't do it for fun and games....
If one hunter came up to me and said..
I hunt because it's fun to take down animals, I don't mind how much it suffers, what ever it takes to bring it down...I like the meat, I like being outside...it's legal, and I can get away with screwing over an animal...
At least he's being honest..
A friend who is an avid hunter and owner of an archery website stated...'its stupid to talk of killing animals with a bow in any ethical terms...your puncturing an animal with 4 razor blades attached to a stick"
So yeah I had a steak the other night, and I realized some pour animal got screwed over for it....it doesn't sit well with me...but at least I can live with the concept that it's sustenance, that's the way it's been for some time....I just don't do it for fun and games....
You want a medal for heroism for shooting a deer at 75 yards?
No not at all. Far from it.You want a medal for heroism for shooting a deer at 75 yards?
No not at all. Far from it.
But I do expect a nice piece of liver or heart that night. And a winter filled with lots of yummy backstrap steaks, lean, delicious burger and a cool chunk of buckskin for everything from knee patches for Levis and a work apron, to moccasins.
My dogs have always expected tasty chew toys made from various other bony parts too.
If you're really polite you might get to see the coat/hat racks made out of antlers and hooves too.
That is just some of what "I want" from my deer, regardless of the range I shoot it at.
I hope you enjoyed your hormone free, naturally lean, healthy steak, but trust me, that's just the "tip of the iceberg" when discussing the advantages of harvesting a game animal.
Oh wait, you do mean you ate a steak from a game animal right? Or did you eat some of that hormoned/vaccinated/artificially fattened beef that mills around the feed lot for 90 days before it's slaughtered unceremoniously on a bloody, cold, concrete floor by an illegal alien in a food factory?
I agree. I think all you animal rights activists, vegan HSUS and PETA types should come clean and stop hanging out in gun and hunting forums taking pot-shots at members.I think we all have had enough of lies, cover ups, justifications and excuses...