I have seen 270 130 gr bounce off elk hinde quarter ,oh I forgot about the shot placement , but when the wind is blowing 20 knots/hr from west to east and you are 300 yards away south of your target shooting 150gr, what do aim to have your neck shot? and for those that all they need is a stick, try the stick when the bulls are not in rot.
There are some shots that ethical hunters are going to pass up. If you're not confident that you can make a shot the only ethical choices are to try and get closer or walk away.
And if your 270 loads are bouncing off elk, maybe reloading isn't for you.