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Depends on if I was misled by your liberalism. I like redneck hippies don't get me wrong. The one area i can agree with them on is having zero gun control laws. As long as they are against all forms of gun control especially any type that gets called 'sensible gun control'. I am with you on that single issue.

You are the only one to judge if you were misled. I certainly never said anything regarding gun control, that was your assumption.
 
As the Op, I'm not quite sure how we got from Biden meeting with the NRA to the present discussion.
On Thursday we will see if this amounts to anything or comes to nothing.

I believe earlier posters are correct in their predictions that Biden will hide behind the "They wouldn't budge, They weren't reasonable" argument.

It appears the administration already has telegraphed its intentions. Meeting with the NRA to merely demonize them afterwards is a flimsy sham, but that's showbiz.
 
Exactly Dave. Biden has made it clear they already have an agenda and a plan. He met with nearly 15 different anti-gun pro ban groups today. Tomorrow he is meeting with the NRA. Have we heard about ANY other organization being invited?
 
Why are they having all theses meetings and wasting more tax payers money when they already have there minds made up with what they are going to do? it makes no sense to me. Maybe the sheeples know. :huh:
 
A couple years ago, Obama was going to hold a meeting with business leaders to find ways to improve the economy. The business people were assembled, Obama came in , gave a short speech and left. He didn't talk to a single person. His disciples in the media let him get away with the scam. This meeting won't have any more value.
 
The post was right on the money, hit the nail on the head. This administration did not mention their agenda before the election loudly, even though it was out there for most second amendment supporters to see......Oh yah, I voted for the socialist libtard as supporters in the forum post because blah blah blah, and now as Mr.Wright says it, "The chickens are coming home to roost."
 
Bad Motel, yes leftist do love murder and it is funded through planned parent and the millions of abortions that tax payers have payed for the las five years. With that said more people are murdered by the left, then guns.
 
dmancornell: heroic defense of truth in this thread. An old fashioned *** whooping, which can only happen when they come back for more. Epic, good form.


Hah, that's rich. Protip: the garbage you were taught in public school civics class isn't how the country works.



Never called myself a patriot. I prefer radical libertarian. :)

Hating the state is a moral imperative. If you look at the vast crimes perpetrated in history by "systems", be they dictatorial, monarchical or democratic, you'd understand that.



Yeah, same here. You can fight the hopeless rearguard action defending the detritus of 2A. Teaching people to hate the state is the only real way to fully restore 2A.
 
"The tank, the B-52, the fighter-bomber, the state controlled police are the weapons of dictatorship. The rifle is the weapon of democracy....If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws." EDWARD ABBEY

That is from Abbey's 1979 work Abbey's Road.

As Abbey says "The rifle is the weapon of democracy" and its partner is the ballot box). We pro rifle people need all the allies we can get. We disagree on taxes, the size of the state, the structure of trade, the social support network and so forth, in a DEMOCRACY we can still vote and work things out in the long run.
 
No amount of facepalms can indicate how much you truly, truly don't understand what is going on.

Let me go through this one more time. I'll try and keep it simple and not use big words, just for you.


-It is unlikely anyone here, myself included, favor more gun control. We support the 2nd amendment as it stands, and taking away that right, as a whole or in part, is bad for America.

-It doesn't matter, in the context of this debate, whether you think the Obama administration are a bunch of criminals or not.

-Shouting about how you think the government is a bunch of criminals isn't going to get many people on your side. There are people who agree with you and people who disagree with you who won't have their minds changed no matter what. What you're doing is making the influenceable people in the center think you are a lunatic.

why is it BM you always resort to name calling and talking down to anyone with your posts( I'll try and keep it simple and not use big words, just for you.)
you don't have any buying or selling posts
 
Along with gun ownership free speech is also guaranteed in the US Constitution.

On privately owned forums that is unfortunately not the case. I came pretty close to being banned on a outdoor forum for talking about 2A rights. I was specifically told my 1A did not apply in that forum and I could be 86d for expressing my views. I no longer participate on that site.
 

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