Background checks with a valid CHL?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by BAMCIS, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS
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    The Sportsman's warehouse thread got me to thinking. So as to not hijack that thread I started this one. I'm not sure if it goes here or under "legal and political".

    Why is it necessary for a background check to be run on a new gun is purchase when one already has a CHL? This seems redundant to me

    I know there will be responses like "OSP needs the work" or "OSP needs the fees". But if they supposedly aren't keeping records of gun purchases then this should be a relatively easy law to get changed in our favor. Shouldn't it?

    Or the very least perhaps a check made either online or via phone with whatever sheriff's office issued the CHL to make sure it is still valid would suffice?

    What are your thoughts?
     
  2. wakejoe

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    Control. They need to feel like the big kids on campus.
     
  3. PiratePast40

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    Any background check is only valid for the minute that it's completed. Unless there is periodic validation, a piece of plastic in your wallet doesn't mean squat.
     
  4. Dunerunner

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    It is the gun purchase tax.
     
  5. teflon97239

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    Imagine you're already waiting a ridiculous amount of time to get your first CHL, or a renwal.

    Then, because of all the panic that Feinswine, Obama and Bidet have caused (on purpose, those useless, self-serving agenda-pigs)... imagine that the sheriff's office working on your CHL is answering calls/faxes, hundreds every day, for other guys (with CHL's in their wallets already) - buying guns.

    It's insultingly frustrating on either end of the equation.

    Okay, intrusion exists and it won't go away. So there's no good reason this can't all be on one instantaneously accessible computer database since Holder and his interagency goons are already scrutinizing all of us here. But we can safely assume that the slowest, most bureaucratic route (for CHL applicants eligible on the day they were last checked) will be taken at the end of the day, to make the law abiding people (who don't traffic in stolen guns) pay and wait. As always, give criminals a complete pass because they'll never pay like we do.

    Now here's something to consider. If you have more than one tax stamp application on file with ATF, why the HELL can't one agency cash all your checks and lick all of your pending stamps on the same stinking day???
     
  6. Darknight

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    My last 4 FFL transfers have all been done on a cell phone in under 5 minutes. How much faster do you want it? Piratepast40 hit the nail on the head, you might have slipped through the cracks when convicted or have pending charges sufficient enough that no transfer should be done. Although now days I think the SWAT team would show up to collect your CHL if they wanted it back, but you get my point. They do keep the records for a number of years as well.
     
  7. udoggie

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    Many years ago, a CHL did bypass the waiting period when there were "cooldown" waits.

    UD
     
  8. Certaindeaf

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    Your card doesn't have a "live" RFID chip in it. A phone call must be made to update/assess your status/standing.
     
  9. Retread

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    A CCW was sufficient in Texas once upon a time. I don't know about now days.
     
  10. Ligito

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    True.
     

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