Armed Robber Gets Shot By Store Clerk - Robber's Family Angry

[RVTECH]

So did clerk get fired for carrying gun in store?

At 1:16 in the video news report the reporter says 'The police say the clerk was legally allowed to have the gun' - but nothing more about it.

 

[Longwalkhome]

"But Schumacher reinterated his belief that the consequences literally did not fit the crime."

reinterated ??

Where are the editors/proofreaders? Where do these "journalism" people learn to read and write?

No doubt grandpa had something to do with his grandsons criminal upbringing. Who gave the kid the idea it was OK to commit crimes?

 

[RVTECH]

Who gave the kid the idea it was OK to commit crimes?

Probably the criminally minded friends he had been 'running' with, potentially due to poor parenting from his mother and father.

I would highly doubt the GF had anything to due with it. Grandparents are typically far enough 'removed' from grandchildren to have any real influence on them - good or bad.

 

[3MTA3]

No doubt grandpa had something to do with his grandsons criminal upbringing. Who gave the kid the idea it was OK to commit crimes?

I don't think he was ok with his grandson committing a crime. He's in pain over his loss and can't see that the home owner has no idea what weapons the intruders had nor what their intentions were and feared for his life.

EDIT: clearly there is something wrong with that family's internal culture. Not sure if it came from gramps or not.

 

[Longwalkhome]

I don't think he was ok with his grandson committing a crime. He's in pain over his loss and can't see that the home owner has no idea what weapons the intruders had nor what their intentions were and feared for his life.

EDIT: clearly there is something wrong with that family's internal culture. Not sure if it came from gramps or not.

Just a point of view about gramps talking "fairness", apparently he thought 3 criminals against one home owner was a fair fight. My point is that family values start at the top so the idea of fairness sounds like it came frome him.

 

[RVTECH]

so the idea of fairness sounds like it came from him.

And it was most likely just an impulsive remark from him due to what 3M said about him being in pain over his loss.

People will say anything to rationalize things they probably KNOW in fact are wrong but cannot accept the reality of it - kind of like the sister of the brother of the OP of this thread.

 

[The Heretic]

If I lost my job at a Dollar store I wouldn't be too upset. Not a promising career IMO.

 

[saw2]

Not a wink of sleep lost here over the store clerk taking him out. My opinion is I really wouldn't mind see it happening more often. With the amount of arrests the 2 in this story had obviously the past law enforcement efforts didn't detour them.

I will say the store clerks efforts finally detoured one of them for good so be it one problem taken care of.

 

[The Heretic]

Just a point of view about gramps talking "fairness", apparently he thought 3 criminals against one home owner was a fair fight. My point is that family values start at the top so the idea of fairness sounds like it came frome him.

Life isn't fair.

However, most state laws do state it is fair to shoot a burglar in your home, armed or not. Long standing legal principle:

If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him (Exodus 22:2-3)

 

[Koda]

I don't think he was ok with his grandson committing a crime. He's in pain over his loss and can't see that the home owner has no idea what weapons the intruders had nor what their intentions were and feared for his life.

EDIT: clearly there is something wrong with that family's internal culture. Not sure if it came from gramps or not.

Like father, like son, like grandson.
It came from gramps.... then the dad perhaps. Theres just zero reason to not "see" the situation from the homeowners side, ignoring that defies all sane logic and understanding about life.... castle doctrine laws go back thousands of years.
Its selfishness to be ignorant of it, And those traits can and most often do get passed down.

 

[The Heretic]

Like father, like son, like grandson.
It came from gramps.... then the dad perhaps. Theres just zero reason to not "see" the situation from the homeowners side, ignoring that defies all sane logic and understanding about life.... castle doctrine laws go back thousands of years.
Its selfishness to be ignorant of it, And those traits can and most often do get passed down.

It is human nature to respond to an adverse situation in an irrational manner.

 

[RVTECH]

It came from gramps.... then the dad perhaps.

Blaming grandpa, or the dad is like blaming the GUN instead of the person committing the crime.

Sonny boy had a choice - and made the wrong one.

Grandpa is 'digging a hole' by attempting to rationalize it with his 'fairness' comment.

 

[Koda]

Blaming grandpa, or the dad is like blaming the GUN instead of the person committing the crime.

Sonny boy had a choice - and made the wrong one.

Grandpa is 'digging a hole' by attempting to rationalize it with his 'fairness' comment.

To clarify im not blaming the parents for the kids choice.

 

[The Heretic]

Blaming grandpa, or the dad is like blaming the GUN instead of the person committing the crime.

Sonny boy had a choice - and made the wrong one.

Grandpa is 'digging a hole' by attempting to rationalize it with his 'fairness' comment.

I think the family had more input into the raising of the criminal with regards to behavior, than any firearm did.

 

[Knobgoblin]

If this was from 2019, I wonder how many family members are still alive today. I think he said that was the second one killed. Kind of like those 2 killers in Seattle that were only 26 years old and already had been arrested 63 times and convicted 21 times.
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Remaining suspects in deadly Seattle shooting have 65 combined arrests

Seattle police are looking for two suspects connected to a deadly shooting in downtown. A third suspect who was shot was arrested.

www.king5.com

Hopefully seattle never forgets those 2 pillars of the community. In fact, they ought to get their own statue on the corner outside mcdonald's.

 

[RVTECH]

I think the family had more input into the raising of the criminal with regards to behavior, than any firearm did.

Well, you are right.

The firearm had NO input into the 'raising of a criminal' since a firearm is an inanimate object but regardless the son made a choice, completely of his own volition, and without regard for how he was - or was not raised.

How often in our lifetimes have we (or maybe only some of us) knew of (or heard about) people who made bad (illegal) choices, on up to committing crimes and we either knew personally, or knew of, the parents to be fine, upstanding, law abiding citizens?

Ever been intoxicated to the point you shouldn't have been driving? I have (more than I care to admit) - and my parents certainly didn't promote me drinking and driving. Never got a DUI fortunately.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Given the linier and singular nature of time, yes, I feel very confident saying that this event has not happened again since then.

Another one like it? Sure, maybe, but not this one

 

[Koda]

How often in our lifetimes have we (or maybe only some of us) knew of (or heard about) people who made bad (illegal) choices, on up to committing crimes and we either knew personally, or knew of, the parents to be fine, upstanding, law abiding citizens?

Yes, and those kinda parent dont blame the victim for their kids choices. Huge difference

 

[RVTECH]

Yes, and those kinda parent dont blame the victim for their kids choices. Huge difference

I agree however I think this is just an indication of the 'times', potentially liberal parents instilling 'projection of blame', and not teaching their children about personal responsibility or the consequences of making bad choices.

 

[Koda]

I agree however I think this is just an indication of the 'times', potentially liberal parents instilling 'projection of blame', and not teaching their children about personal responsibility or the consequences of making bad choices.

Its definitely a trend thats increasing. Like the Jacob Blake shooting people blamed the cops when he was the one who pulled a knife. They burnt the town down over it... Reinforces projection of blame on anyone else.
Choices have consequences.