Any concerns about food shortages?

[The Heretic]

That's some pretty easy math to do. Then, we figure how many mouths there were to feed in 1962 and compare that to the number of mouths in 2021. That makes for another dose of easy math. From there, I think the conclusion should be pretty obvious...

1962 US population 185M

2020 US population 330M

 

[Burt Gummer]

It isn't so much that the food industry is out to poison us or make us obese. All about any way to make more $$$. From cheap garbage oils to Aspartame a nerve toxin that increases appetite.
Corp America is all about PROFITS. Your health, your life doesn't even factor into the equation.

The food industry sickens us and the fraudulent medical system does the rest with 'treatments.' A Merry-Go-ROund of cash and prizes.

99% of pharm drugs are unnecessary trash, but make them trillions. Phizzzer brought in 1.7 trillion on their latest fraud in just one year. Didn't stop the branded flu or even stop transmission aka absolutely worthless. Now that is what you call profiteering!

 

[sobo]

In 1962 the USA had 182 million acres of cropland.

As of 2021 the USA has 160 million acres of cropland.

That's some pretty easy math to do. Then, we figure how many mouths there were to feed in 1962 and compare that to the number of mouths in 2021. That makes for another dose of easy math. From there, I think the conclusion should be pretty obvious...

1962 US population 185M

2020 US population 330M

So, cropland in America decreased by ~12 percent while the population increased by ~78% over the same time period. No rocket surgery needed there...

 

[The Heretic]

So, cropland in America decreased by ~12 percent while the population increased by ~78% over the same time period. No rocket surgery needed there...

OTOH, productivity increased:

USDA ERS - Agricultural Productivity Growth in the United States: 1948-2015

Technological developments in agriculture have driven long-term growth in U.S. agricultural productivity. Innovations in animal and crop genetics, chemicals, equipment, and farm organization have enabled continuing output growth while using much less labor and farmland. As a result, total...

www.ers.usda.gov

According to the newest ERS data, U.S. farm output grew by 170 percent between 1948 and 2015—at an average annual rate of 1.48 percent. With total input use rising only 7 percent over the same period, productivity growth accounted for most of total output growth during that period. TFP grew at an average annual rate of 1.38 percent, compared to 0.1 percent for total inputs.



That said, there is the issue of a water shortage, and a possible energy shortage (energy is needed for the inputs - the energy needed to run the machinery, the energy needed to make the pesticides/herbicides and fertilizers).

At some point the soil will become sterile due to the chemicals and processing (tilling/etc.) and the chemicals/etc., will reach a plateau that cannot match the consumption of an increasing population of the world. While it is possible that the US population may plateau also (maybe decline), the world population will not and the rest of the world will not sit idly by while we grow fat and they starve.

 

[Howard1955]

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/14/heat-wave-worsens-shattering-records

 

[Burt Gummer]

The hive mind will accept anything going forward along with the CC false narrative. My remaining years may be spent shaking my head in disbelief at the decay of independent thought and how easily people are manipulated.

At least I got the memo very late in life and stopped using non-stick pans 2-3 years ago:

At least I stopped using non-stick pans a couple years ago

 

[Longwalkhome]

Well they get people to eat snails so I guess they will eat bugs too. Heck they got 165,000 to get an experimental jab by using fear so what will they get by using hunger?

Might be better that we eat the elite when they ruin the food supply.

 

[Siglvr]

Well they get people to eat snails so I guess they will eat bugs too. Heck they got 165,000 to get an experimental jab by using fear so what will they get by using hunger?

It's all how you cook the bugs. I will say that eating the small cricket like bugs was ok, but I was not able to eat the tarantulas they offer plates of in Laos. Even taking a small taste was difficult for me. If I was starving I suspect that they would be hanked down in short order.

 

[sobo]

It's all how you cook the bugs. I will say that eating the small cricket like bugs was ok, but I was not able to eat the tarantulas they offer plates of in Laos. Even taking a small taste was difficult for me. If I was starving I suspect that they would be hanked down in short order.

Have you tried fried scorpion? A Bangkok treat!

 

[sobo]

...the world population will not and the rest of the world will not sit idly by while we grow fat and they starve.

That whole "let them eat cake" thing coming back around again...

 

[Longwalkhome]

Have you tried fried scorpion? A Bangkok treat!

Really hoping I don't have bugs in my mouth until after I am dead.

 

[sobo]

Really hoping I don't have bugs in my mouth until after I am dead.

It was purely for the novelty, to be able to say, "Yeah, I ate that..."


Waiting for the above quote to appear in the MQTOoC thread in 3... 2... 1...

 

[Siglvr]

Have you tried fried scorpion? A Bangkok treat!

Nope, in Bangkok I'm more of a "street roti" guy (banana roti in particular) and my diet goes to bubblegum but curiously I still lose weight. In case anyone has not heard of Roti:

 

[arakboss]

I haven't seen any shortages as of late, except for a shortage of good deals on Mayo.

Speaking of Mayo, how long do you think Mayo could safely sit on shelf at room temp after opening it?

 

[arakboss]

Eggs are a buck a dozen at Safeway again. Time to stock up and break out the mineral oil.

 

[Cavedweller]

Russia-Ukraine grain deal breaks down, apparently in retaliation for the Ukrainian attack on the Kerch Bridge. Russians attack grain facilities in the Port of Odessa, declare that Ukraine-bound shipping will be considered military targets. US wheat price jumps 8.5%.

Russia bombs Ukraine ports, threatens ships, as Kyiv deploys cluster munitions

Russia jolted world grain markets with an escalation in the Black Sea, mounting a third straight night of air strikes on Ukrainian ports and issuing a threat against Ukraine-bound vessels to which Kyiv responded in kind.

www.reuters.com

Russia targets Ukraine's port of Odesa and calls it payback for a strike on a key bridge to Crimea

Ukraine said its forces shot down Russian drones and cruise missiles targeting the Black Sea port of Odesa in what Moscow called “retribution” for an attack that damaged a crucial bridge to the Crimean Peninsula.

apnews.com

 

[billdeserthills]

I haven't seen any shortages as of late, except for a shortage of good deals on Mayo.

Speaking of Mayo, how long do you think Mayo could safely sit on shelf at room temp after opening it?

Mayo can last a very long time at room temp

How long can you leave mayonnaise out?

Answer (1 of 6): The is another of the food myths, old chestnuts of false beliefs that surface regularly. Before you mix it with another food, mayonnaise is one of the safest of foods and if it has been made properly it doesn't need refrigeration. The reason is that it is an emulsion, - mostly o...

www.quora.com

 

[billdeserthills]

Eggs are a buck a dozen at Safeway again. Time to stock up and break out the mineral oil.

Aren't you supposed to be using vegetable oil, seems like mineral oil would go right through you-- might hafta make a run for the bathroom

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/vy6ue5

 

[Longwalkhome]

Looks like the wheat in Ukraine won't get to our tables or any other. I wonder how many will starve when the war shuts down Ukraines wheat?

 

[Howard1955]

I haven't seen any shortages as of late, except for a shortage of good deals on Mayo.

Speaking of Mayo, how long do you think Mayo could safely sit on shelf at room temp after opening it?

I don't know how long it takes for mayo to go bad - but my Uncle Tom killed the family's pet monkey by letting it eat from a mostly-empty mayonnaise jar.

True story.