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Why would politicans care about a shrinking percentage of the electorate? They want power and votes and your lobbying is going to be less relevant every day
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If people believed that Blitz, there wouldn't be any grass roots groups.
So if all the talk of Obama takin R gunz is nothing but bunk, why do we need to lobby the senate at all? Why would you say something so contradictory to the rest of your argument? Makes no sense. If it's not real, what's the point of wasting the money to lobby against a non-issue?
The ignorance this statement shows is astounding.
I've never said, here or anywhere else that Obama was a friend to gun owners. I've stated repeatedly that he was opposed to us, but it was pretty far down the list of things he cared about. I don't see where, practically, he was in any significant way different from Romney on this particular issue. I've been entirely consistent on this point for 5 years and have been borne out by the facts.
The level of PSH over Obama regarding guns is laughable. Never, have so many, been so paranoid, with less objective reason or more resistance to any injection of fact.
I have seen, repeatedly, on this board, speculation that:
1. Obama is going to declare himself dictator for life
2. Obama, without the help of the congress, is going to magically ban everyone's Black Rifles and large cap magazines.
3. Obama is going to stack the SC with extra justices (because, hey, THAT's never been slammed down before).
4. That a treaty designed to stop proliferation of small arms to third-world war zones, which has repeatedly, BY THE US Govt, been altered to specifically NOT include any lawfully owned or traded civilian firearms AND which hasn't the chances of a snowflake in Hell passing the U.S. Senate with the required 66% majority REGARDLESS, is a great threat to our rights.
5. That Obama has a "secret agenda" (apparently "more extreme" than the long-stated, never retreated from goal of a AWB) that was just waiting for a second term, when unlike his first term, he has a Republican majority in the house. (That's planning like a real Machiavelli, I tell ya!)
This is the tinfoil damned-foolishness I'm talking about. This is the kind of epistemic closure, the kind of other-world paranoid delusion that makes sane people, including a lot of gun owners, shake their heads and ignore the whole issue, which is REALLY bad for all of us.
This is the boy who cried wolf over, and over and over again, day in, day out.
The one thing I'm actually concerned about Obama doing is appointing a SC replacement for two ANTI-GUN justices very likely to retire this term, who is also anti-gun. This would result in an IMPROVEMENT over the existing court makeup.
This is an actual, REAL threat, that we can ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT. I realize writing letters to and meeting with Senators isn't nearly as sexy or as easy as ranting conspiracy theories on the internets and sending a check to an organization who lobbied AGAINST filing Heller vs. DC. (Starts with a N, ends with a A) but that's what gets the job done.
Obama isn't going to take our guns because he CAN'T. He can appoint SC justices we really aren't going to like. He can make some VERY minor regulatory decisions we won't like. The first we can absolutely do something about. The second, you need congressional action to over-ride. Since my rock-ribbed "Conservative" Congressman Doc Hastings has not introduced a SINGLE piece of pro-gun legislation since 1994, nor have the vast majority of our so-called "friends" in congress, call me crazy If I call BS on the whole R vs. D Black/White, Good/Bad fiction and insist on fighting fights that
a: Actually exist to be fought
and
b: We have some ability to address
The ignorance this statement shows is astounding.
I've never said, here or anywhere else that Obama was a friend to gun owners. I've stated repeatedly that he was opposed to us, but it was pretty far down the list of things he cared about. I don't see where, practically, he was in any significant way different from Romney on this particular issue. I've been entirely consistent on this point for 5 years and have been borne out by the facts.
The level of PSH over Obama regarding guns is laughable. Never, have so many, been so paranoid, with less objective reason or more resistance to any injection of fact.
I have seen, repeatedly, on this board, speculation that:
1. Obama is going to declare himself dictator for life
2. Obama, without the help of the congress, is going to magically ban everyone's Black Rifles and large cap magazines.
3. Obama is going to stack the SC with extra justices (because, hey, THAT's never been slammed down before).
4. That a treaty designed to stop proliferation of small arms to third-world war zones, which has repeatedly, BY THE US Govt, been altered to specifically NOT include any lawfully owned or traded civilian firearms AND which hasn't the chances of a snowflake in Hell passing the U.S. Senate with the required 66% majority REGARDLESS, is a great threat to our rights.
5. That Obama has a "secret agenda" (apparently "more extreme" than the long-stated, never retreated from goal of a AWB) that was just waiting for a second term, when unlike his first term, he has a Republican majority in the house. (That's planning like a real Machiavelli, I tell ya!)
This is the tinfoil damned-foolishness I'm talking about. This is the kind of epistemic closure, the kind of other-world paranoid delusion that makes sane people, including a lot of gun owners, shake their heads and ignore the whole issue, which is REALLY bad for all of us.
This is the boy who cried wolf over, and over and over again, day in, day out.
The one thing I'm actually concerned about Obama doing is appointing a SC replacement for two ANTI-GUN justices very likely to retire this term, who is also anti-gun. This would result in an IMPROVEMENT over the existing court makeup.
This is an actual, REAL threat, that we can ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT. I realize writing letters to and meeting with Senators isn't nearly as sexy or as easy as ranting conspiracy theories on the internets and sending a check to an organization who lobbied AGAINST filing Heller vs. DC. (Starts with a N, ends with a A) but that's what gets the job done.
Obama isn't going to take our guns because he CAN'T. He can appoint SC justices we really aren't going to like. He can make some VERY minor regulatory decisions we won't like. The first we can absolutely do something about. The second, you need congressional action to over-ride. Since my rock-ribbed "Conservative" Congressman Doc Hastings has not introduced a SINGLE piece of pro-gun legislation since 1994, nor have the vast majority of our so-called "friends" in congress, call me crazy If I call BS on the whole R vs. D Black/White, Good/Bad fiction and insist on fighting fights that
a: Actually exist to be fought
and
b: We have some ability to address
I deal with 4 firearms distributors. As of yesterday, no one had any average run of the mill AR rifles left in inventory. There were a few high end target models and a few varmint hunting platforms but that was it. Davidson's, RSR Group, Lipsey's, Valor, etc. zero inventory.
Whatever your opinion is on that person that was re-elected, and those people ruling the Proletariat, the run on certain firearms is real.
If there wasn't a run on guns before there will be now
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that show a run on those guns on the distributor/retailer side? Doesn't necessarily mean there's a run on the retailer/consumer side, does it?
No intention to kill you, just don't agree with you.
The USA as we knew it is finished.. Balkanization and blood is in the near future
I disagree....
It'll take a few years
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's SOP for a POTUS for at least my entire lifetime, so from Carter to now.