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Schadenfreude: pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
The magnitude of our illegal problem is staggering, we are talking about 20+ million people who have a direct relationship with at least 10 million children who are US citizens. But since your all so down with this plan, how about you spend a few minutes figuring out what expulsion of this many people would do to our economy, how much raising the left behind kids would cost and how to deal with their anger over the situation, how much violence would be done by the people being expelled, how will the owners of real estate and businesses that can no longer be profitable be compensated, who will do the jobs these folks are doing, What arangements have to be made with other countries, how you will round up these people and ship them out, how to deal with citizens who will be accidently rounded up and shipped, and how such an action will make the US look to the rest of the world.
How do we know that deportation will be cheaper, I mean, is there even any financial incentive for creating so much misery over simply allowing them to become citizens?
If we don't know that, and we don't, then what are we waving in the wind here?
I will first start out by saying that with the staggering unemployment rate we have under the current administration, I am sure there is a lot of people who will gladly take the jobs the illegals have right now. Some of you guys keep saying that the illegals fill jobs on farms and cleaning motels ect. What yyou are missing is that they also have a lot of skilled labor jobs in construction. Some of you may be above such a job, but I know a considerable number of people who have been layed off, in spite of the stimulus, and would take the $20 plus dollar an hour jobs that are left behind. I know, "illegals do jobs that americans won't do". I know it's coming. Well, those jobs were done before we were overrun with illegals and are still getting done in the states that haven't been overran illegals. If we somehow are left with jobs that Americans won't do I have a great idea on how to fill them. We let in the IMMIGRANTS THAT WANT TO COME HERE LEGALLY TO FILL THE JOBS! We don't reward criminals by giving them citizenship.
Economically, I think that it would be a very positive thing to deport the illegals. Take California for example. California has the largest population of illegals in the US, as well as being a leader in crime rate. 50% of their prison population is filled with illegals. Figure out the staggering cost that California is paying every year to house that number of people in the prisons, not to mention the cost to pay for their legal costs. Now you can get to the business of trying to figure out the enormous cost of their crimes on society, both in blood and in property damage. Figure in the impact on the healthcare system. Figure in welfare for the large families, and housing. Now consider that the largest part of Mexico's economy is the money sent to them by the Mexican's that are here. California is bankrupt. Of course that isn't the only reason why they are bankrupt, but I would throw it out there that it is definitely a significant contributing factor.
Now to address your concern of what other countries would think of us. I could care less what other countries would think of us. We would be enforcing our immigration laws which are much less strict than those other counrties own laws. I have grown very tired of this overly pc time period. We are driving ourselves into a third world counrty catering to everyone but ourselves.
Again, you act as if the only time these people are going to cause damage is if we round them up. They are causing damage every single day! You may not be exposed to it, but it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Besides just thumbing their nose at our immigration laws, many of these people are drug dealers and gang members. They aren't all the lowly motel cleaners who are want to be model citizens. Don't forget when you are trying to drum up sympathy for the illegals, you are talking about 20+ million criminals. Every single one of them is a criminal.
Look at Salem Oregon for gods sake. We have some family that bought a house years ago off of Lancaster. They are scrambling to get the **** out of there because the Mexican gangs are terrorizing them. Their 12 year old daughter had a gun held to her head by a non english speaking mexican gang member two weeks ago when she was coming home from school. I could fill up pages on just the crap that has happened just to them.
Here is the bottom line as far as I am concerned. Do we in the US make it a policy to reward criminal behavior? Millions around the world want to come here legally and become Americans. They go through the proper channels and pay their dues to come here as my dad's family did generations ago. It takes time and hard work for them to get here. Now you have another group that says to **** with the law and breaks through the border, get's false identification, many steal id's, and engage in illicit activities such as drugs and gangs. So does it make sense that we as a country would reward the criminals by just giving them citizenship while we tell the other people that they have to go by the book and the track to citizenship is going to slow a bit more because our quota has been filled by the illegals. I say that is b.s. We need to round the illegals up and ship them out of here. No tolerance.
You ask what how we deal with the children of the illegals that are left behind that act out in negative ways. My concern is more how do we deal with the children who have lost their parent because they were killed by a illegal? Ask yourself if you would be taking the same position you are if your dad, wife, or child had been a victim of a illegal.
By the way several of you have thrown out the race card very "liberally". Play on words intended. There was a comment about what are the dangers to society other than more brown voters or something like that. My dad's family were immigrants from Ireland that LEGALLY came into this counrty generations ago. My moms family were of native american origin. My problem isn't with "brown people" since I am partially one myself, it is with criminals.