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Any thoughts on the Zastava PAP M77 .308? I've got an NPAP AK and really like it. I thought it might be nice to have a semi-auto .308 for far less dollars than most other .308 semi autos.
Or would it be worth a little more to go with a VEPR?
I think accuracy on any AKM will not be there in comparison to an AR or M1A platform. I would expect it to function 100% and this does not mean I don't want a .30 cal VEPR because I do. I really want one in 7.62x54R but would not expect the same accuracy from it that I get out of my AR-10. Again, all depends on the role the rifle is intended to fulfill.
Think of how much trouble it is to scope them.I had two Valmets (the Rolls Royce of AKs) in .308, one in heavy long barrel config - I also had several other AKs in 762x39 and 556. How I hated giving up those Valmets, but when the mags got to be $150 each and no more were coming into the country due to the AWB, I decided I should get something more conventional.
None of them ever did any better than 2.5 MOA regardless of type of manufacturer, chambering, ammo and scope mounts.
I am an AK fan, but I would really be surprised if anyone ever found a typical AK (i.e., not some special variant designed and made differently), put a scope on it, and got better than 2 MOA from it.
That just isn't what they are made for.
Scout Scope mounts are now available for many AK variants. I shot a Norinco in 556 with a very solidly mounted scope using a mount attached to the side of the receiver and I used various ammo, including US made match grade ammo and the best I ever got was 2.5 MOA.Think of how much trouble it is to scope them.
Just not made for real accuracy.
Recoil on the AR10 is more than the M1A just due to weight difference. There are things that can negate some of it but even with a good brake, my AR10 has more recoil that the M1A and FAL (which are both piston operated but also heavier).