Your tax money will pay to clean up forest after shooting club used it for decades

BigStick · May 16, 2013

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"The tiny town of Index, Wash. offers breathtaking views along the Snohomish River just northwest of Stevens Pass. Now, part of the national forest there has been deemed contaminated and unusable. And your tax money will be used to once again make it usable after a shooting club used it for decades."

What do you guys think about this? All I know is what the article says. Sounds like the club should have kept up their permits, but that someone decided they needed to be shut down. What do you do with a shooting range after a gun club closes?

fallingblock · May 16, 2013

Some company will bid out the clean up for a substantial amount of taxpayers money, then they will mine the area for twice that of the clean up bid and make a mint out the whole deal..

See here:Gun Range Clean Up

drew · May 16, 2013

Your tax money will pay to clean up forest after shooting club... | www.kirotv.com

KIRO 7 Eyewitness News had University of Washington environmental engineer, Dr. John Kissel independently review the findings.
"It's not appropriate for unrestricted human access," he said. "The primary threat is to children who might ingest the soil. Sampling results are as such that you wouldn't want unrestricted use. You couldn't, for example, use it as a campground, which would be a reasonable use."

Brutus57 · May 16, 2013

I was a certified lead abatement worker for awhile. Lead is nasty especially for kids so I can see wanting the clean up. But yes, someone will make bank on this. Anything with environmental clean up basically triples normal costs because of the high disposal costs of the contaminated soil. You just can't dump it in a landfill or use it for topsoil although some companies have tried.

Brutus out.

PiratePast40 · May 17, 2013

Brutus57 said:
I was a certified lead abatement worker for awhile. Lead is nasty especially for kids so I can see wanting the clean up. ...... Brutus out.

There are many substances that aren't good for you but the key is the ingestion pathway and quantity of the material. Lead is certainly a hazard but it depends on how it is ingested. Paint chips are one issue and lead fumes from smelting are also an issue. But I'm really wondering how much of a real hazard is present with solid lead pellets. I can certainly understand that eating large quantities of dirt with lead bullets in it isn't good for you. But seriously, is this a real hazard?

Kevinkris · May 17, 2013

love how the primary concern is children who might eat the dirt lol. all the same the club should have been cleaning up after themselves.

Blitzkrieg · May 17, 2013

Because kids eat lots of dirt

speeddemon94 · May 17, 2013

This is a bit funny to me. It's silly to shut down an established shooting area like that. Just give the responsibility to another group and move on.

They have tried over and over again to shut the old range out at the Jackson County Sports Park down through the years, but just cant do it. There has been a range there since 1942 and it was military until 1946, they shot a ton in WW2. Then it was open to the public, as well as having the LE section. There is so much lead in the side of that ridge, the county finally gave up as the cleanup cost would be far too great. Not to mention the loss of a fantastic, affordable ($5/shooter), shooting complex. So now a group maintains it and has fixed it up very nicely.

I have never seen a child eat the dirt there.

The largest problem I see, is that TPTB will keep shutting these places down and then we wont have a place to play anymore.

drew · May 17, 2013

Kevinkris said:
love how the primary concern is children who might eat the dirt lol. all the same the club should have been cleaning up after themselves.

Blitzkrieg said:
Because kids eat lots of dirt

I'm surprised they haven't crafted a sign to address such a pressing problem.

Redcap · May 17, 2013

Tax money? What tax money?

Blitzkrieg · May 17, 2013

speeddemon94 said:
This is a bit funny to me. It's silly to shut down an established shooting area like that. Just give the responsibility to another group and move on.

They have tried over and over again to shut the old range out at the Jackson County Sports Park down through the years, but just cant do it. There has been a range there since 1942 and it was military until 1946, they shot a ton in WW2. Then it was open to the public, as well as having the LE section. There is so much lead in the side of that ridge, the county finally gave up as the cleanup cost would be far too great. Not to mention the loss of a fantastic, affordable ($5/shooter), shooting complex. So now a group maintains it and has fixed it up very nicely.

I have never seen a child eat the dirt there.

The largest problem I see, is that TPTB will keep shutting these places down and then we wont have a place to play anymore.

I will

Caveman Jim · May 17, 2013

drew said:
Your tax money will pay to clean up forest after shooting club... | www.kirotv.com

If we can save only one child......

That is the mentality in liberal states likw Wa, Or & CA. No you can not do that anymore, it is too dangerous!!! Politicians have NO COMMON SENCE!!!

fallingblock · May 18, 2013

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drew said:
I'm surprised they haven't crafted a sign to address such a pressing problem.

They had a sign when I was a kid and they used to hand them out in grade school like candy. They were called "mr. yuk" stickers. Only after I had placed those stickers on every liquid substance under the sink did I know not to drink them.... Sarcasm included to indicate that kids are smarter than the libs think they are.