You can't buy some of the simplest stuff anymore.

[CamoDeafie]

That's why it seems like a hard decision whether it's worth it to do business here at all.

It's not hard. The answer is "no, it's not worth it to do business in WA(and eventually Oregon).

 

[slimmer13]

It's not hard. The answer is "no, it's not worth it to do business in WA(and eventually Oregon).

It is hard. On one hand, there are good people here that you'd like to support. On the other, you have your own livelihood to think about.

 

[CamoDeafie]

It is hard. On one hand, there are good people here that you'd like to support. On the other, you have your own livelihood to think about.

Just saying it's not a hard decision for outside WA sellers

 

[titsonritz]

The current argument I think is they make the gun easier to shoot. So along with other features that improve ergonomics and performance they ban them.

Don't give them that much credit, they have no argument, they simply will take the opportunity to chip away at any part of a constitutional right they hate and wish to destroy.

 

[titsonritz]

So if this only affects semi autos then why are retailers not shipping them to the state? Its odd how the item itself is not illegal its the application.

Because it is their business I they not feel like breaking out a magic eight-ball to interpret WA state BS laws.

 

[Koda]

Don't give them that much credit, they have no argument, they simply will take the opportunity to chip away at any part of a constitutional right they hate and wish to destroy.

I don't give them any credit... just citing their argument.

A gun is a gun. They are all designed for self defense not murdering people... a distinct difference the antis leave out....

 

[CamoDeafie]

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A gun is a gun. They are all designed for self defense not murdering people... a distinct difference the antis leave out....

Well. Pretty hard to use an Anschütz .22 Biathlon rifle in self defense, or any of those weird race pistols, or the expensive over and under shotguns used for trap and skeet shooting but yeah, these aren't designed for murdering either.

 

[Koda]

Well. Pretty hard to use an Anschütz .22 Biathlon rifle in self defense, or any of those weird race pistols, or the expensive over and under shotguns used for trap and skeet shooting but yeah, these aren't designed for murdering either.

They are still guns.
Wasn't there a fun story year's ago some guy tried to rob a bus of biathlon shooters..... and "found out".

 

[CamoDeafie]

They are still guns.
Wasn't there a fun story year's ago some guy tried to rob a bus of biathlon shooters..... and "found out".

I didn't say "impossible"

Edit. Am agreeing with you that they are not "expressly and only designed for murdering human beings"

 

[quneur]

It's about what constitutes an 'assault rifle'. They can't say definitively because the dividing line was once full-auto vs semi-auto. Their next step moved the Overton window to banning 'assault rifle' based upon description and not operation. One part that they determined an 'assault weapon' consists of muzzle devices. Hence, muzzle devices are banned in WA because it's one of those 'parts'.

And they're idiots.

Shrouds are also banned. WTF does shrouds has to do with SPR? I suspect they meant handguards but shrouds made it in the law.

 

[micdude]

I thought it impacted threaded barrels.

Yes but you can buy a suppressor still and attachments for it ie flasher/muzzle brake it's part of the suppressor

 

[micdude]

Just on "semi auto" platforms.. The Marlin 45-70 I just got has a threaded barrel and will be getting a can soon.

Apparently muzzle devices are only bad on semiautomatic rifles

 

[Explorer1]

I don't think they're banned. You can purchase them for bolt actions. Some companies are just over cautious, and I can't say I blame them. Not sure I'd do business with this state.

Remember the AG's new "FFL responsibility laws"; he can use our tax dollars to close down anything he doesn't like while calling to consumer protection.

 

[belshawelk]

You dont need one anyways.